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November 15, 2020
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  I  wonder if someone has a good deer hunting load for my model 70 in 270. The gun is a standard grade made in 1950 but in excellent condition. I’ve been shooting Hornady Superformance with 130gr SST bullets and the gun likes them but the store is empty. I have Nosler Balistic Tip 130gr, IMR4831, and IMR 4895. Any suggestions would be appreciated. T/R

November 15, 2020
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Try loads listed in the Lyman Handloader’s Manual.

November 15, 2020
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 I have the 47th Lyman manual, tried some, a lot of choices. I’ve also gone to the Nosler web site, more choices, looking for a shortcut. T/R 

November 15, 2020
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TR,

Starting load for IMR 4895 is 43.0 Grains  Max load is 46.9 grains with a 130 grain projectile.

Starting load for IMR 4831 is 51.0 grains and the max. load is 55.8. with a 130 grn. projectile

Data taken from the 2nd edition of the Richard Lee manual.  One of the better manuals in my opinion, 2-3 times the data per caliber and bullet weight compared to other manuals.

I like a full case of powder, I would lean towards the IMR 4831.  I use IMR 4350 in my 270. It’s an BAR and it functions better with the slower burning powders. In your case with the bolt rifle it won’t matter. PM me if you need any components, I can get them to you in a couple days from the UP. I’ve got a ton of 270 stuff.

 

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November 15, 2020
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TR,

My model Remington model 700 in .270 likes 46.0 grains of IMR4895 and 130gr sierra bt bullets.

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November 15, 2020
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 Erin, I have some old notes on IMR 4831 at 57gr from an old shooter grade model 70 I once owned. I think I’ll start below that and work up. I appreciate the offer, but I have what I need to give that a try. I thought I had a fair stock of factory ammo but after preparing  my grand-daughter for her first hunt, we shot up most of the factory ammo. I thought I’d have to buy her a limited recoil load, but she handles normal rounds well.

 I’m in all the local stores every couple days and never thought I wouldn’t be able to buy 270 ammo, this hoarding and limited supply caught me by surprise. Thank you for your offer! T/R

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 Thanks Al, I’ll put that on my list. T/R

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TR said
…this hoarding and limited supply caught be by surprise.

Not to stir up the pot, but how was this any surprise?  The election was predicted months ago to be a Blue Wave, and pollsters predicted the House would pick up several Democratic seats, the Senate would be a Democratic majority, and the presidency would go to Biden.  Plus all the rioting, this is NO surprise!

Fortunately the left leaning pollsters were wrong to some degree.  Hopefully the Senate remains majority Republican and keeps some of this stuff in check.

ANY time a Democratic majority, sweep, or anything threateningly similar to this happens, folks hoard ammunition, components, firearms, etc.  The best salesmen for pro 2A items are Democratic congressmen.

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TR said
  I  wonder if someone has a good deer hunting load for my model 70 in 270. The gun is a standard grade made in 1950 but in excellent condition. I’ve been shooting Hornady Superformance with 130gr SST bullets and the gun likes them but the store is empty. I have Nosler Balistic Tip 130gr, IMR4831, and IMR 4895. Any suggestions would be appreciated. T/R  

Nosler’s website says for IMR 4895 42 grains for 2780 fps.  44 grains will get you 2870 fps.  46 grains is the MAX for 2960 fps but they say this is the most

https://load-data.nosler.com/load-data/270-winchester/

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 Thanks Chuck that’s a good link. T/R

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 Thanks Chuck that’s a good link. T/R  

No problem.  I like using the bullet manufacturer’s data.

November 15, 2020
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Nosler is my first choice when it comes to rifle bullets.  Ive used both their ballistic tip bullets and partition bullets and am partial to the ballistic tip bullets in a variety of rifles I shoot. 

Ive loaded quite a bit for my 270 (Remington M700).  Found that 130 grain bullets worked the best over the 140 or 150 grn bullets.   For the Remington I started at 56 grn and worked up to 58.5, with the best load being 57 grns of H4831SC shooting 130 grn Nosler ballistic tip bullets. 

 

Just recently worked up a load for a buddy of mine that has a 270 Browning A-bolt who was caught this deer season without any ammo.  A few weeks ago I was able to find some 130 grn Nosler Partition bullets and brass.  Using H4831, and starting at 56 grns and working up to 58.5, I was able to shoot under 1″ groups using 58 grns of of the H4831 powder. This load chronographed at 2790 fps on average with 11 fps variance (3) shots. 

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 Thanks Chris, I only have IMR 4831, what’s the difference. T/R

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IMR 4831 is a bit different and burns faster than H4831 from what Ive read.  You can search and see what the differences are. 

Other than what is on the Nosler website, my only source is my Speer No 13 (2003) reloading manual it lists IMR 4831 starting at 54 grns (2698 fps) and a max at 58 grns (2971 fps) for a 130 grain bullet.   As Erin mentioned before from the Lee source, it may be a better idea to work off the Lee info and gradually work your way up.   You’ll probably want to be shooting in the 2650-2800 fps range, whatever the bullet likes best. 

Ive never tried IMR 4831 before, have always used the H4831 for my 243 & 270, and IMR 4350 for my 7mm rem mag. 

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It appears that Hodgdon owns IMR too?? Every time I try to just search IMR it goes to a Hodgdon site.

Here is what they say about IMR 4831 for the 270 Win with 130 gr bullet.  51 to 55.8 MAX.

http://www.hodgdonreloading.com/data/rifle

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  Thanks Chuck, I think I’ve got enough information to proceed. These powder and bullet web sites are handy. T/R

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  I  wonder if someone has a good deer hunting load for my model 70 in 270. The gun is a standard grade made in 1950 but in excellent condition. I’ve been shooting Hornady Superformance with 130gr SST bullets and the gun likes them but the store is empty. I have Nosler Balistic Tip 130gr, IMR4831, and IMR 4895. Any suggestions would be appreciated. T/R  

I loaded 4831 for years with 130 Speer boat tail bullets. Max load in the Speer book. Took a ton of game with that load. Deer, elk, bears, moose, caribou, dall sheep. Later I started using 140 grain Hornady bullets. 

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   Thanks everyone for the help. I ended up with 57gr. of IMR4831 and a Nosler 130 BT bullet, 3060fps, one inch group at 100yds. I’m sure that’s as good as my old eyes and shaky fingers can shoot. The Model 70 has got a independent source of ammo.

 The 13 year old grand-daughter shot her first deer, a forked buck at 75 yds. Father and grand-father proud. The meats in the freezer and she can’t wait to eat venison she shot. T/R

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Good job, TR!

 

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TR said
   Thanks everyone for the help. I ended up with 57gr. of IMR4831 and a Nosler 130 BT bullet, 3060fps, one inch group at 100yds. I’m sure that’s as good as my old eyes and shaky fingers can shoot. The Model 70 has got a independent source of ammo.

 The 13 year old grand-daughter shot her first deer, a forked buck at 75 yds. Father and grand-father proud. The meats in the freezer and she can’t wait to eat venison she shot. T/R  

Congratulations TR to your Grand daughter and family . That load should do anything ask of it . After trying many different loads in my .270 WCF I tried the Jack O’Connor load and found what the rifle wanted , a tight three shot clover leaf group at near 3,150 FPS . Old Cactus Jack was the best .,,,DT    

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