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April 22, 2018
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I'm going to Saskatchewan in a few weeks to hunt black bear. Considering a 1894 rifle in 38-55 anyone have any experience with this round on black bear?

April 23, 2018
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I don't know.

As much as I like Winchesters and .38-55, I think when it comes to black bears I'd feel more confident with my Husquvrna in .30-06.  A lot of black bear were taken with an 1886 in .33 WCF.  I might consider that as a minimum!

April 23, 2018
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I have no personal experience with shooting bears with the 38-55 though it is one of my favorite calivbers.  The following is quoted from "The Rifle Shooter" website:  "

"Not long back I hunted black bear on Vancouver Island with a Marlin Model 336 Cowboy in .38-55 Winchester. I handloaded 30.0 grains of Reloder 7 behind Barnes’ 255-grain Original, which consistently shot inside five inches at 200 yards. When zeroed two inches high at 100 yards it was dead on at 200. I shot my bear at less than 50 yards, and the animal dropped in its tracks–proving that then, as now, the .38-55 sure gets the job done."

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April 26, 2018
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Do you know the weight of the bullet, its hardness, and its fps?

I've not shot a bear.  Have killed five decades of other Big Game with .222, .270, .308, .32 W.S, .50 muzzle-loader.  I have shot early production .38-55 Model 1894's.  The current load I shoot is a 275 gr. gc over 26 grains of Reloder 7.  Plenty of power/energy.  I can't imagine a Black Bear not being incapacitated by such a combination.

I recently settled on the .38-55 load, so I haven't taken an animal with it yet.  Plan to carry it in the Fall for Roosevelt Elk.

April 26, 2018
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FromTheWoods said
Do you know the weight of the bullet, its hardness, and its fps?

I don't know the ballistics of the load quoted but the Barnes Originals are thick copper jacketed lead core bullets, and would have been either .375 or .377 FNFB, both being 255 grains.

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http://www.barnesbullets.com/files/2014/11/38-55WinchesterWeb.pdf

If I were ambling along in a bear suit, these loads would readily bring me down.  Ouch!

April 26, 2018
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The round I’m planning on using is a power point lead core jacketed 255 grain bullet. FPS is suppose to be 1350 at the muzzle 

May 21, 2018
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Well I guess the 38-55 was plenty enough for back bear or in this case a cinnamon colored bear. 1894 did the job

May 21, 2018
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Come on now, you cant just tease us without showing a couple of pics....Smile

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May 21, 2018
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What is the bear laying on that its underside is laser beam flat?  

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May 21, 2018
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Well done Gary.  Always neat to see the old rifles in the field.

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May 21, 2018
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Thanks for posting the pics.  Looks like you had a great hunt.  Cant go wrong with a 38-55 for most any kind of large game.  Congrats!

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May 21, 2018
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Thanks guys. First time I’ve been able to put two of my favorite things,,, hunting and collecting Winchester lever actions together. Very enjoyable and I will for sure do it again

May 24, 2018
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What is the bear laying on that its underside is laser beam flat?  

Michael  

I'm guessing a board or maybe some plywood. Can barely see it under it's neck.

 

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Mike,

yes, we laid an old piece of wood across a couple of rocks and put the bear on top. 

October 8, 2018
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Congratulations- a Winchester in 38-55 was just right!

Jim

October 11, 2018
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Several years ago, I killed a buffalo with my .38-55 saddle ring carbine.  Used a lead bullet cast from an original Winchester mold with smokeless powder.  Hit the buff on the right side just behind the ear at 70 yards.  Dropped like a rock and never moved.  The .38-55 is a great short to mid range hunting round, with a well placed shot.

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