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October 20, 2021
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Would one of the experts here please give me the correct pronunciation of Winder. I’ve heard win-der, wine-der and maybe a few others. How did Col. C.B. Winder pronounce his last name? Thanks Neil
November 1, 2013
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“Win-der” is what I’ve always heard.
April 15, 2005
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I too have always heard it as “wind er”
Bert
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July 17, 2012
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Great question – Win-der/Wind-er is correct as mentioned above.
When I first read about Col. Winder and the Winder designs I assumed it was “wine-der” as that is how my brain processed the written word and that is how it sounded in my head so I am sure others continue to perpetuate that mis-pronunciation, especially if they have never heard it correctly pronounced.
The same confusion occurs with John C. Garand’s last name which should be “Gairand”, not “Ga-rand”.
And, if you want some real pronuncial diversity, try your hand at my last name Abendshien 😉
Best Regards,
WACA Life Member #6284 - Specializing in Pre-64 Winchester .22 Rimfire
November 7, 2015
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Single Shot, 1885, 1887, Winder Musket, High Wall, Low Wall….at least now we know how to pronounce “Winder”. I feel a little better.
Mike
April 15, 2005
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TXGunNut said
Single Shot, 1885, 1887, Winder Musket, High Wall, Low Wall….at least now we know how to pronounce “Winder”. I feel a little better.
Mike
Mike,
It is “Single Shot”, Model 1885, Model 87, Winder Musket, high-wall, and low-wall. For some unknown reason, Winchester cataloged the late production (3rd variation) low-wall Winder Muskets as a “Model 87”.
Bert
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November 7, 2015
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Bert H. said
TXGunNut said
Single Shot, 1885, 1887, Winder Musket, High Wall, Low Wall….at least now we know how to pronounce “Winder”. I feel a little better.
Mike
Mike,
It is “Single Shot”, Model 1885, Model 87, Winder Musket, high-wall, and low-wall. For some unknown reason, Winchester cataloged the late production (3rd variation) low-wall Winder Muskets as a “Model 87”.
Bert
Thanks, Bert. It was getting late and we both know I knew better. Lots of interesting things about the Winder Muskets, even a mystery or two.
Mike
May 26, 2017
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JWA said
And, if you want some real pronuncial diversity, try your hand at my last name Abendshien 😉
I have noticed that when it comes to your last name, there are several ways to get around botching it(at least for me anyways)
1. ‘Jeff Ab’……you know the guy who wrote the model 69 book.
2. ‘Jeff Ab’….. you know JWA on the forum
or 3. ‘Jeff Ab’…. The 22 guy
Hope you get a chuckle out of it…..
July 17, 2012
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Bill, Yep, that is a good strategy. 😉
When my Dad was in the Air Force they simply called him “Abby”, not a very original callsign……
Best Regards,
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December 31, 2012
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I pronounce your name Friend. When are you coming by to take a look at a couple M06’s? Thanks friend. Big Larry
July 17, 2012
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Big Larry said
I pronounce your name Friend. When are you coming by to take a look at a couple M06’s? Thanks friend. Big Larry
I am headed up to Cody on Monday but won’t have time to stop on the way up. My 76 year-old Uncle is getting married right after the show so Sandy and I will have to immediately jump on a plane for Chicago to make the wedding.
The best thing is if I just make a special trip and drive up to your house for the day. I just need to find a hole in my schedule to do it.
Looking forward to seeing your 1906’s!
Best Regards,
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December 31, 2012
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JWA said
Big Larry said
I pronounce your name Friend. When are you coming by to take a look at a couple M06’s? Thanks friend. Big Larry
I am headed up to Cody on Monday but won’t have time to stop on the way up. My 76 year-old Uncle is getting married right after the show so Sandy and I will have to immediately jump on a plane for Chicago to make the wedding.
The best thing is if I just make a special trip and drive up to your house for the day. I just need to find a hole in my schedule to do it.
Looking forward to seeing your 1906’s!
Best Regards,
Thanks my friend. Looking forward to you coming up. Bruno’s is real close. Maybe you would want to shoot my Thompson? Larry
July 17, 2012
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Big Larry said
JWA said
Big Larry said
I pronounce your name Friend. When are you coming by to take a look at a couple M06’s? Thanks friend. Big Larry
I am headed up to Cody on Monday but won’t have time to stop on the way up. My 76 year-old Uncle is getting married right after the show so Sandy and I will have to immediately jump on a plane for Chicago to make the wedding.
The best thing is if I just make a special trip and drive up to your house for the day. I just need to find a hole in my schedule to do it.
Looking forward to seeing your 1906’s!
Best Regards,
Thanks my friend. Looking forward to you coming up. Bruno’s is real close. Maybe you would want to shoot my Thompson? Larry
I would LOVE to shoot the Thompson! We just need to pick a day when it is not too hot.
I will start stockpiling .45 acp. See you soon!
Jeff
WACA Life Member #6284 - Specializing in Pre-64 Winchester .22 Rimfire
November 1, 2013
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JWA said We just need to pick a day when it is not too hot.
Nov. would be a safe bet.
July 17, 2012
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clarence said
JWA said We just need to pick a day when it is not too hot.
Nov. would be a safe bet.
Actually, October is one of the nicest months here in the high desert. But, with this year’s weird weather who knows?
Best Regards,
WACA Life Member #6284 - Specializing in Pre-64 Winchester .22 Rimfire
