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March 23, 2010
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Most Model 64 Deer Rifles have the rubber/plastic pistol grip cap with the words Winchester Repeating Arms Company stamped around the outside edge of the cap.Some however have a plain metal cap with no markings.
Just wondering why ,when and for how long these metal caps were used?Were they a replacement for the rubber/plastic caps?Were they used as a fill in, until more rubber plastic caps could be produced?Were they just used for awhile then went back to the old style cap?When did the metal caps first appear on the Model 64 Deer Rifles (serial number /date)?
In short any thing of interest about the metal caps.
April 15, 2005
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The smooth blued steel pistol grip caps replaced the hard rubber logo caps very late in production, and are found on the Models 43, 64, and 71 beginning in 1956.
Bert
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March 23, 2010
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Bert ,I have three Model 64 Deer Rifles made in 1953 according to the serial numbers listed on the site.Two are over the 2,000,000 mark and have the metal pistol grip caps.The other is about 25,000 below the 2,000,00 mark and has the plastic/rubber pistol grip cap.
Is it possible the numbers listed could be off, or that some metal pistol grip caps were used before 1956?Is it possible that some rubber and ,some metal caps were used before 1956,but only the metal ones after 1956?
Not trying to argue,just informing what are on my rifles.
April 15, 2005
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Almost anything is possible… however, I suspect that your 1953 serial numbered Deer Rifle may not have been assembled until a few years later. Please send me the serial numbers that have the steel caps so that I can update the survey.
Bert
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March 23, 2010
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Yes, the serial numbers being stamped on the receiver in 53,but the rifle not made until 1956 or 57 does seem quite plausible .
Do you know of a reason why the change was made from the rubber pistol grip caps to the metal ones?
What is the highest serial number you have in your survey for a Model 64 rifle?
April 15, 2005
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28 gauge said
Do you know of a reason why the change was made from the rubber pistol grip caps to the metal ones?What is the highest serial number you have in your survey for a Model 64 rifle?
No I do not, but I suspect it was a case of material availability.
The highest serial number I have in the regular production range is 2189349. That stated, I have (5) Model 64 Parts clean-up rifles with serial numbers 2277509, 2310377, 2376651, 2389038, and 2493465, and I am relatively confident that at least a few dozen more exist.
Bert
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March 23, 2010
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Thanks for that Bert.
A couple of questions about the parts clean up rifles.Do you know if both sporting rifles and Deer Rifles were made?What calibres?24 and 20 inch barrels?Was there anything about them that was different from the earlier made rifles?
April 15, 2005
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Dan,
They were standard Sporting Rifles, both 30 WIN and 32 WIN SPL. Except for the serial numbers, they were otherwise identical to the earlier regular production rifles.
Bert
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