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Winchester model 1886 Arapahoe County
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Jon G.
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So I have a question about my model 1886 Arapahoe County. The only ones i can find online are in a 40-82 that were ordered by this county. Did any of these come in a 45-70?

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Jon:

 I had one of these 1886’s awhile back. If I remember right, they were all ordered in that caliber. I went to the library ( back Then ), you can probably do it on line these days. There was a full right-up about when the governor had the building where the sheriff and his men were in, totally surrounded with federal troops. The sheriff had ordered 50 ( I think that was the number ) of these rifles thinking that there was going to be problems. That’s all I remember about the situation. When I sold my 86 to Leroy Merz, I gave him all the paper work about that event. He may still have it although it was about 35 years ago.

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December 11, 2015 - 2:34 am
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Here’s the story:

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"This is the West, sir. When the legend becomes fact, print the legend." 

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So 94shorties are you saying they were all made in 45-70? 

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Jon

 They were all ordered in 40-82. I believe that if you get a letter from the Cody museum, it will say ordered with 49 others just like it.

http://www.arapahoegov.com/documentcenter/view/351

Paul

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Jon Gialouris said

So 94shorties are you saying they were all made in 45-70? 

Read the article I posted a link to just above your 12/30/15 post.

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wincacher:

 I clicked on your note and got nothing when you first posted it. Maybe I am doing something wrong. Anyway, that is why I posted the link that I have.

Paul

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Strange goings on!  My upload is a .pdf file and should open with Acrobat Reader or any similar programs.  Your link givers me:   

Must be the gremlins.

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As an outside observer, the link in Wincacher’s post opened just fine for me, but the link that Paul posted generates a page not found error.

Update:  I updated Paul’s post and corrected the weblink.  It should now work properly.

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Here’s the one page article, just to make it easy to read for everyone. If you click it it should be big enough to read.

I’ve been lurking but find this terribly interesting.

 

Steve

 

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Can someone help me figure out how to upload a picture please? and which link? I’m all confused and sorry i forgot to check this thread 

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Guests are not able to post pics….

“If you can’t convince them, confuse them”

President Harry S. Truman

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as a guest you can upload photos using a hosting service such as Photobucket.com or Imgur.com.  Upload the photos to one of those hosting sites and they will provide you a link you can add to your post here. 

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Okay no longer a guest

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Welcome!

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i posted two pictures, does that help anyone?

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Jon, 

As stated above, all were supposed to be chambered in 40-82. What is the serial number? Do you have a factory letter for it?

I can tell you that your rifle has been completely refinished, and has had holes added to the receiver side for a scope mount. Both points will negatively affect the value.

However, the engraving looks very similar to original examples I have owned and handled (keeping in mind engraving can be duplicated). There is a chance it is one of the original factory engraved rifles. A factory letter will help determine this. 

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I got the factory letter for this and it was chambered in 40-82 from the factory. Was also ordered for Arapahoe County. Since has been changed to 45-70. I’m assuming that will affect the value? also it being refinished like you said? 

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