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Interested in the cut off dates when Winchester no longer used these numbers. So for example we know an early say 1900 or so Deluxe Lever rifle will usually have XX or XXX and the assembly number stamped on the left tang flat. But later Deluxe rifles from the 1920’s and 1930’s do not always show XXX or assembly numbers. Is there any research into the use of deluxe stamping and lack of it over time?
What model gun are you referring to?
Bob
WACA Life Member--- NRA Life Member---- Cody Firearms member since 1991 Researching the Winchester 1873's
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Any Winchester Deluxe Factory rifle. 95, 94, 86, 64, 63 etc. Even a late late 1873 may be a candidate. In my view there is a lot of commonality in how Winchester did things across several Models as they made changes over time.
1873man said
What model gun are you referring to?Bob
While on the subject, I have a 2nd model 1890 that left the factory in 1898 factory lettered engraved, checkered straight stock, nickel trims etc. Mine has no X’s stamped in the tang either. For that matter no serial number on the butt plate either although it’s nickle plated also. I was under the impression Winchester always serialized the butt plates. Any thoughts on this?
Len
Len,
Winchester did not “serialize” the butt plates. What can be found is an assembly number if the butt plate was a special order item. Standard butt plates were unmarked.
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
With the 73’s I haven’t noticed a cutoff date for tang markings and the X marks are not a guarantee of being there on guns with fancy wood.
Bob
WACA Life Member--- NRA Life Member---- Cody Firearms member since 1991 Researching the Winchester 1873's
Email: [email protected]
It looks like some guns got X’s and some didn’t. So what was the manufacturing process reasoning why Winchester used X’s anyway? Did it just tell the assembler what grade of wood to use? What if a gun was to be checkered over plain wood. Why no special markings to tell the assembler for that? In plants I have seen they used routing sheets and build sheets on paper not on the product.
I suspect the guns with the X’s were guns that were built on order while other guns that were built for stock. Also I have seen if a gun had some special features it was given a better grade of wood with no indications in the record or on the gun since it was somewhat standard practice.
Bob
WACA Life Member--- NRA Life Member---- Cody Firearms member since 1991 Researching the Winchester 1873's
Email: [email protected]
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