Avatar
Search
Forum Scope




Match



Forum Options



Minimum search word length is 3 characters - maximum search word length is 84 characters
Lost password?
sp_Feed sp_PrintTopic sp_TopicIcon
Winchester Barrel / Receiver Proof Marks?
Avatar
Kevin Jones
Member
WACA Guest
Forum Posts: 482
Member Since:
March 21, 2016
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
1
July 24, 2016 - 1:13 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_EditHistory

I see quite a few Winchester photos of rifles/carbines that do not have barrel / receiver proof marks. 

Is it that only certain models have proof marks? Or only pieces made before or after a certain date have them? 

Or are all Winchesters supposed to have them? 

 Image Enlarger

Image Enlarger

IMG_0805-Copy-Copy-Copy.JPG

Winchester Model 1873 44-40 circa 1886

Avatar
Wincacher
New Mexico
Member
WACA Guest
Forum Posts: 1167
Member Since:
December 1, 2012
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
2
July 24, 2016 - 2:02 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print

I don’t know the specifics of each model but previous posts here on this subject have indicated that Winchester started using the matching proof marks on the barrel and receiver sometime around 1905.  When a barrel has a proof mark and the receiver doesn’t, and the serial number is a 19th Century one, you can be certain the barrel has been replaced.

1876-4-1.jpg

"This is the West, sir. When the legend becomes fact, print the legend." 

Avatar
1873man
Wisconsin
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 4748
Member Since:
May 2, 2009
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
3
July 24, 2016 - 2:49 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_EditHistory

Kevin,

After July, 17 1905 they were proofed. Here is a good post to read on the subject.

winchester-wp-and-oval-p-markings

Bob

WACA Life Member---
NRA Life Member----
Cody Firearms member since 1991
Researching the Winchester 1873's

73_86cutaway.jpg

Email: [email protected]

Avatar
pdog72
Wyoming - Gods Country
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 1286
Member Since:
January 26, 2011
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
4
July 24, 2016 - 3:17 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print

Kevin

The slide action 22’s (1906 & 1890) were a bit later……. I think out in 1908.

There are a number of things that collectors are drawn to and Winchesters that are pre-proof mark period is one them.

                                                                               ~Gary~

                                                                                                                                                                              94-SRR.jpg

Avatar
Kevin Jones
Member
WACA Guest
Forum Posts: 482
Member Since:
March 21, 2016
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
5
July 24, 2016 - 4:52 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print

Thanks guys, just the info I needed. Since I’m purchasing pre-1899 models it doesn’t impact me much. 

Thanks for the thread link Bob, good info. 

IMG_0805-Copy-Copy-Copy.JPG

Winchester Model 1873 44-40 circa 1886

Avatar
twobit
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 2541
Member Since:
March 20, 2009
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
6
July 28, 2016 - 1:32 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print

1873man said
Kevin,

After July, 17 1905 they were proofed. Here is a good post to read on the subject.

winchester-wp-and-oval-p-markings

Bob  

This would fit with what  I have observed on the Model 1892 rifles.  Around approximately SN 300,000 is when the barrel and receiver are proofed on the upper surfaces of both.

Michael

Signature-Pic.jpg

 

Model 1892 / Model 61 Collector, Research, Valuation

Forum Timezone: UTC 0
Most Users Ever Online: 5406
Currently Online: steve004, 1ned1, 426crown, Byron Russell, rogertherelic, Bo Rich, Deg, Clinkerclint
Guest(s) 263
Currently Browsing this Page:
1 Guest(s)
Top Posters:
clarence: 7119
TXGunNut: 6679
Chuck: 5988
steve004: 5278
1873man: 4748
deerhunter: 2748
Big Larry: 2578
twobit: 2541
mrcvs: 2259
Maverick: 2053
Newest Members:
Clinkerclint
Mark Stitzer
John058
Psiska
SFCJCL
KevinOnTheBeach
Joe the duckguide
Jhartman
Peter Browne
dbarale
Forum Stats:
Groups: 1
Forums: 18
Topics: 15018
Posts: 134831

 

Member Stats:
Guest Posters: 2057
Members: 10186
Moderators: 3
Admins: 4
Administrators: Mike Hager, Bert H., JWA, SethJ
Moderators: Rob Kassab, Brad Dunbar, Heather
Navigation