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Greetings. I am new to this forum and am seeking some assistance. I have a Winchester 1894 that has a serial number (11010XX) that would place it as being made in 1938 or 39. The barrel length is 20 inches and it has a hooded front site. When I am looking at the different models associated with those years in the Blue Book Value of Guns, I see that they made a Model 1894 Saddle Ring Carbine and a Model 1894 Saddle Ring Carbine Eastern. My Winchester does NOT have a saddle ring. I don’t know if someone took it off or if there was a way to special order one without it. Any help in identifying this model would really be appreciated.
I have linked some pictures of it if it is of any assistance.
Sincerely,
Chris
According to the Blue Book:
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MODEL 1894 SADDLE RING CARBINE
20 in. round barrel.
Add 40% for any cal. other than .30-30 Win. or .32 Spl.
Carbines with special order features such as pistol grip, deluxe wood, checkering, etc. can bring even greater premiums than the rifle.
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Model 1894 Saddle Ring Carbine Eastern
features long forearm, early stock design, early style carbine post or hooded ramp (later mfg.) front sight, and without saddle ring, mfg. late 1920s-early 1930s.
Chris,
To start this out, the Blue Book of Gun Values is a very poor reference document to use for identifying the many different specific variations of the various Winchester models. It is also not a good source of information concerning Winchester DOMs. Accordingly, your Model 94 is a standard Sporting Carbine, and it was manufactured in February of the year 1936. Winchester discontinued installing saddle rings as a standard production item early in the year 1932. “Eastern” Carbines were those that were made prior to 1932 without a saddle ring, and beginning in early 1928, Winchester began making them intentionally. Prior to 1928, they were a special order option (to omit the saddle ring).
Final comment… it is not necessay to post serial numbers with “xx”. Please post complete serial numbers, as quite often, we can provide additional details about a specific serial number.
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
Thank you so much for the response and the insight of the Blue Book of Gun Values. The full serial number is 1101010. How would you recommend I go about getting an estimated value of the carbine at the various stages of condition? If I had to guess based on the blueing, the scratches, pitting, etc… I would think this would fall in the 70 – 75%.
I have a few Model 94s/9422s that I will never sell as they have a family attachment that I cherish. This one is one that I am contemplating selling to reinvest into something else.
Chris
The carbine shown is a “Transitional” In my collection I have # 1100457, a 30 caliber, It is very close to mint condition,99%+, and has the scarce 1927 dated 22-E rear sight. I paid $2,000 for it in a trade.
Because it is a 32 Special it will not bring the values of a 30WCF. Maybe $800 on a good day and that is because it is a Transitional. A little harder to find these days.
Glad you took Berts advice and dropped the XXX’s. The gun police do not care about a 1936 vintage M94. Big Larry
Chris,
Your estimate of 70-75% condition is spot on. The value is quite some bit more than Larry mentioned. I do agree that the 30 WCF has a higher value than the 32 WS, but it is not that big of a difference. The value is closer to $1,000, and you might get more if you are near the Michigan, Wisconsin, Minnesota area, as the 32 Winchester Special has a significant following in that part of the country.
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
Chris,
I have found ” The Red Book of Winchester Values, An Investment Opportunity ” to be an accurate source of all the Winchester models and calibers, pricing levels and also various condition levels. There is much more than that included, such as serial numbers, manufacturing production, condition calculations and much more.
The 3rd Edition ( 2013 ) is on ebay and Amazon now, but the new edition is rumored to be available in January. I’d wait for that ( as I am ).
There is a link to Amazon on the WACA website under “Store” then ” books “.
FYI: Bert is being modest. He and Larry Shennum wrote it !
Good luck on your Winchesters ! 
Bill
Again…thank you so much for your help Bert, Larry, and Bill for your information. I went looking for the book and there are none available. 🙂 Guess I will be keeping my eyes open for the next edition.
Sincerely,
Chris
WACA Life Member--- NRA Life Member---- Cody Firearms member since 1991 Researching the Winchester 1873's
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