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I have just recently inherited a Win. Mod. 94. I am the 3rd owner and other than the original owner I know the full history of this gun. According to the ser. #(1305127) this gun was manufactured sometime in late 1941 or early 1942! I was told that if it has a military stamp that it may be collectible. Does anyone know where that stamp may be located? This gun spent most of its life in a case in a closet since 1948 and was originally bought as surplus. I’m no expert but if I had to guess I’d rate the wood at 90% and the bluing at about the same….just an educated guess. Ant and ALL input appreciated!
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Paul,
For the WW I Spruce Guns, the martial markings were applied to the top of the frame ring with three separate die tools and they were individually hand stamped. The exact location on the top of the frame ring varied slightly from gun to gun, but the markings were all consistent in regards to the size and shape of the “U S” and the flaming ordnance bomb. The exact same markings are found on some of the WW I Riot and Trench Guns, and on the Model 87 Winder Muskets (training rifles). All three models (the Model 1894 lever-action, the Model 1897 shotgun, and the Model 87 single shot) were manufactured in the late 1917 through early 1919 time frame, and I suspect they were all inspected by the same military inspector. I have cafefully examined the ordnance bomb stamp on all three firearms, and they are identical.
In regards to the two or three alleged WW II Model 94 Carbines that I have seen in the past 35+ years , the ordnance bomb was not the same shape or size, so No, I do not believe that the original WW I period hand stamp tools were used.
Is your Model 94 Carbine martially marked? If so, where, and what do the markings look like?
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
Now that I know what and where to look for sure this rifle does not have those markings…pity, I was hoping that it was a WWII model used by the armed forces in some capacity, but I guess not. Crap……….Thanks everyone for the info. Is there someone who I can contact at the factory that might be in a position to research the shipping papers to find out where this rifle was sent? Simply a matter of curiosity now.
Paul,.
There are no shipping papers (records) to research, and there has not been a “Winchester” factory since December of 1980. All surviving factory records are in the possession of the Buffal Bill Historical Center (through the CFM records office), or in private hands.
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
Thanks so much for your help Bert…..especially your patience with a novice!….Thanks again…Paul
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