Avatar
Search
Forum Scope




Match



Forum Options



Minimum search word length is 3 characters - maximum search word length is 84 characters
Lost password?
sp_Feed sp_PrintTopic sp_TopicIcon
Win 1886 450-2000
Avatar
burmanelly
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 37
Member Since:
March 14, 2021
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
1
March 7, 2026 - 2:39 am
sp_Permalink sp_Print

who’s responsible for wiping out the WP and inserting the cal marking 450-2000 on this Win 1886 lightweight

Avatar
burmanelly
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 37
Member Since:
March 14, 2021
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
2
March 7, 2026 - 2:40 am
sp_Permalink sp_Print

hope Bert is listening, he’ll know !!

Avatar
burmanelly
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 37
Member Since:
March 14, 2021
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
3
March 7, 2026 - 2:45 am
sp_Permalink sp_Print

phone battery = dead, will supply pictures tomorrow

Avatar
Bert H.
Kingston, WA
Admin
Forum Posts: 14000
Member Since:
April 15, 2005
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
4
March 7, 2026 - 2:46 am
sp_Permalink sp_Print

burmanelly said
hope Bert is listening, he’ll know !!
  

Sgt-Shultz.jpgImage Enlarger

sp_PlupAttachments Attachments

WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
High-walls-1-002-C-reduced2.jpg

Avatar
burmanelly
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 37
Member Since:
March 14, 2021
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
5
March 7, 2026 - 2:54 am
sp_Permalink sp_Print

the barrel marking and action marking that lined up on top of barrel and action WP, ( or PW), the barrel marking was leveled out , and stamped with 450-2000

Avatar
burmanelly
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 37
Member Since:
March 14, 2021
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
6
March 7, 2026 - 2:57 am
sp_Permalink sp_Print

maybe i should say receiver vs barrel stamping of wp/pw, 

sorry still learning from you folks

I own no less than 100 Win lever actions, 1885’s, and etc,

Still learn new things everyday

Avatar
burmanelly
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 37
Member Since:
March 14, 2021
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
7
March 7, 2026 - 3:02 am
sp_Permalink sp_Print

fyi, just picked up a 1886, 45-70, TD, ELW, today , ser# 159,425

Avatar
Bert H.
Kingston, WA
Admin
Forum Posts: 14000
Member Since:
April 15, 2005
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
8
March 7, 2026 - 3:05 am
sp_Permalink sp_Print

Pictures… or it doesn’t exist.

The Proof mark is a superposed “W” “P”… Winchester Proof

Bert

WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
High-walls-1-002-C-reduced2.jpg

Avatar
Bert H.
Kingston, WA
Admin
Forum Posts: 14000
Member Since:
April 15, 2005
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
9
March 7, 2026 - 3:09 am
sp_Permalink sp_Print

burmanelly said
fyi, just picked up a 1886, 45-70, TD, ELW, today , ser# 159,425
  

Pictures…

Does it have a Nickel Steel or a Proof Steel barrel?

Bert

WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
High-walls-1-002-C-reduced2.jpg

Avatar
burmanelly
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 37
Member Since:
March 14, 2021
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
10
March 7, 2026 - 3:13 am
sp_Permalink sp_Print

anywho, back to main question, Who (what country) would stamp 450-2000, in place of barrel marking, next to the receiver marking (top of barrel)

Serial number 144775A

Avatar
Bert H.
Kingston, WA
Admin
Forum Posts: 14000
Member Since:
April 15, 2005
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
11
March 7, 2026 - 3:19 am
sp_Permalink sp_Print

burmanelly said
anywho, back to main question, Who (what country) would stamp 450-2000, in place of barrel marking, next to the receiver marking (top of barrel)
Serial number 144775A
  

No idea.  What was the original caliber?  What is stamped on the underside of the barrel?  Until you can post pictures, we are in the dark.

Bert

WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
High-walls-1-002-C-reduced2.jpg

Avatar
burmanelly
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 37
Member Since:
March 14, 2021
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
12
March 7, 2026 - 3:19 am
sp_Permalink sp_Print

Nickle steel, Bert. good hearing from you.

Ive got alot of updates for you for your historian record book, since we last talked

Avatar
Bert H.
Kingston, WA
Admin
Forum Posts: 14000
Member Since:
April 15, 2005
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
13
March 7, 2026 - 3:20 am
sp_Permalink sp_Print

burmanelly said
Nickle steel, Bert. good hearing from you.
Ive got alot of updates for you for your historian record book, since we last talked
  

Great, I will look forward to hearing more about them.

WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
High-walls-1-002-C-reduced2.jpg

Avatar
burmanelly
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 37
Member Since:
March 14, 2021
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
14
March 7, 2026 - 3:26 am
sp_Permalink sp_Print

sorry for adding a different gun to post, earlier, 

the 450-2000, stamped, where the WP was on barrel, is my main concern , on the 1886m lightweight ser# 144775A

“underside” of barrel ??  Ive never removed, or know how to remove the barrel, 

I could learn, if needed, if there is a caliber /marking underneath,

Avatar
Bert H.
Kingston, WA
Admin
Forum Posts: 14000
Member Since:
April 15, 2005
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
15
March 7, 2026 - 3:33 am
sp_Permalink sp_Print

burmanelly said
sorry for adding a different gun to post, earlier, 
the 450-2000, stamped, where the WP was on barrel, is my main concern , on the 1886m lightweight ser# 144775A
“underside” of barrel ??  Ive never removed, or know how to remove the barrel, 
I could learn, if needed, if there is a caliber /marking underneath,
  

Is the rifle in question a Take Down, or a Solid Frame?  Regardless, you only need to remove the magazine tube and forend stock to see the factory markings (and caliber marking) on the underside of the barrel.

You say “lightweight” but Winchester never actually manufactured a “lightweight” Model 1886.  It is either an “Extra Light Weight” (22-inch barrel), or it is a standard rifle.  What is the barrel length?

Bert

WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
High-walls-1-002-C-reduced2.jpg

Avatar
burmanelly
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 37
Member Since:
March 14, 2021
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
16
March 7, 2026 - 3:51 am
sp_Permalink sp_Print

solid frame, 21 7/8″ barrel

Avatar
burmanelly
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 37
Member Since:
March 14, 2021
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
17
March 7, 2026 - 3:52 am
sp_Permalink sp_Print

tapered barrel, if this helps

Avatar
Bert H.
Kingston, WA
Admin
Forum Posts: 14000
Member Since:
April 15, 2005
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
18
March 7, 2026 - 3:56 am
sp_Permalink sp_Print

burmanelly said
tapered barrel, if this helps
  

Does the front sight base look like this ?

Lyman-No.-4-Ivory-Hunting.jpgImage Enlarger

sp_PlupAttachments Attachments

WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
High-walls-1-002-C-reduced2.jpg

Avatar
burmanelly
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 37
Member Since:
March 14, 2021
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
19
March 7, 2026 - 4:00 am
sp_Permalink sp_Print

has to be a tapered barrel, because i’ve other rifle’s in  45-70’s in round and octagon barrels, with twice the barrel thickness’s

Avatar
burmanelly
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 37
Member Since:
March 14, 2021
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
20
March 7, 2026 - 4:01 am
sp_Permalink sp_Print

and 45-90’s, and 50 -110,rifles,  with much wider barrel thickness’s

Forum Timezone: UTC 0
Most Users Ever Online: 5406
Currently Online: wally, 86Win
Guest(s) 706
Top Posters:
TXGunNut: 7129
clarence: 7119
Chuck: 6476
steve004: 5531
1873man: 4848
deerhunter: 2856
twobit: 2634
Big Larry: 2578
mrcvs: 2364
Maverick: 2164
Newest Members:
Kc145Driver
Martin
ALongstreet
44 bulldog
kennet
John Ford
wa54
Orientphile
RobbyB
Bojangles
Forum Stats:
Groups: 1
Forums: 18
Topics: 15582
Posts: 141433

 

Member Stats:
Guest Posters: 2057
Members: 10503
Moderators: 3
Admins: 4
Administrators: Mike Hager, Bert H., JWA, SethJ
Moderators: Rob Kassab, Brad Dunbar, Heather
Navigation