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September 19, 2025
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Can anyone help me out? I was given this gun out of my grandpa’s estate when he passed and I’d like to know it’s condition and worth. I think it was made in 1919, but have no idea how to judge the condition or value.
December 9, 2002
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Welcome Cayden,
Pretty neat that you have you’re grandfathers Winchester rifle. Many here, including myself haven’t had that luxury, as it just wasn’t in the cards.
As a habit, I ran you’re serial number here on the WACA forum site, as is provided to us members, by the Administrators. If you go to the top of the page, you’ll see a heading, “Resources’, and if you scroll you’re mouse over that word, you’ll see, “When was you’re Winchester Made”? Click on that, and it’s pretty self explanatory from there. You’re rifle was mfg. in 1920.
A model 1892, in the saddle ring Carbine, and the most desirable .44 W.C.F. Caliber, is and probably always will be desirable, and sought after.
Showing honest wear, and use, as one would expect, I would suggest that you leave it like it is, only wiping it down and enjoying it, and hopefully, handing it down, keeping it in the family. I’m sure that there’s a lot of history with how the rifle sits. Sometimes, people want to make it like new again, and many here including myself, can see that this piece doesn’t require that! I’m not suggesting you’re thinking that whatsoever, I am just stating what a nice Family heirloom, that you have, in you’re possession, and enjoy it. Any stories that go with it? Any idea how he used it, or for what? Did he hunt with it?
Anthony
September 19, 2025
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Anthony,
Yea I certainly am not planning on getting rid of it or trying to refurbish any part of it. I was just kinda looking to see what I had. No stories on it unfortunately… He didn’t have it long. All of his guns were stolen about 15 years ago from his house. Thank you for the info!
December 31, 2012
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Depending on bore condition, that carbine is probably worth in excess of $4,000. Even with little receiver blue, which many carbines are subject to. 98% 44 carbines are pretty much in the $10,000 range. A favorite of most all the old cowboy movies, nice ones are very hard to find, and unaffordable to most folks. You are very lucky to have your Gpas carbine. Give it a good cleaning, lube moving parts, and shoot it. You will find 44-40 ammo to be very expensive. You will be surprised how accurate these carbines are. Good luck. Big Larry
November 19, 2006
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Big Larry said
Depending on bore condition, that carbine is probably worth in excess of $4,000. Even with little receiver blue, which many carbines are subject to. 98% 44 carbines are pretty much in the $10,000 range. A favorite of most all the old cowboy movies, nice ones are very hard to find, and unaffordable to most folks. You are very lucky to have your Gpas carbine. Give it a good cleaning, lube moving parts, and shoot it. You will find 44-40 ammo to be very expensive. You will be surprised how accurate these carbines are. Good luck. Big Larry
I agree with Larry’s valuation estimate. It looks like a decent clean carbine. Used but not abused. The .44-40 and carbine aspect helps a lot and many Winchester guys would be interested in your carbine.
March 20, 2009
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Hello all,
As mentioned the gun was manufactured during 1920. I saw that rifle when it was for sale out of Vilonia, Arkansas in 2022. Based on the similar rifles I have seen that sell at auction the gun is probably worth about $3000 at best.
Michael
Model 1892 / Model 61 Collector, Research, Valuation
December 9, 2002
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In my first views of this rifle, that the OP, apparently had to buy at his grand fathers family Estate Auction, if I’m understanding the rest of the information, here correctly, from the members.
My first views of pictures number 8, and 9. I held back for others view points. Expanding and looking closely at the top left corner, on the wood, of the forward top tang, the corner is rounded off, enough to make me suspect a possible sanding , and refinishing of the wood stock, a long time ago. As a collector, we tend to pick things apart as I’m doing here. With that said, I wouldn’t be in the $3,000.-$4,000 Dollar range, and giving the rifles overall condition, wouldn’t go higher than the $2,000.00 range if I we’re looking to buy this rifle! IMHO!
Being you’re grand fathers rifle, I have no problem with you stepping up to get this rifle and keep it in the family! Can’t put a price on any sentimental values, and I wouldn’t try, but I would do what you did and pursue the, before it gets lost, family heirloom. IMO!
Good on You!
Anthony
September 19, 2025
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Thank you for the info everyone! Not planning on getting rid of it, but was just wanting to know more about it. The knowledge displayed here was impressive.
December 31, 2012
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Anyone see the sling swivel eyes? If original, they would increase the value of the carbine. If not original it may be an import dropping the vale of the carbine. Values have definitely changed since my gunshow days a few years back. My own M92 SRC has a greyed receiver, most all the bbl. and magazine blue, a nice bore, and is 100% correct. Paid $4,000 for it several years ago. Maybe I over paid, but I made up for it buying a real nice 1913 Oct. bbl. M92 for $2,000. I still have both. Win some, lose some. Big Larry
April 15, 2005
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Big Larry said
Anyone see the sling swivel eyes? If original, they would increase the value of the carbine. If not original it may be an import dropping the vale of the carbine. Values have definitely changed since my gunshow days a few years back. My own M92 SRC has a greyed receiver, most all the bbl. and magazine blue, a nice bore, and is 100% correct. Paid $4,000 for it several years ago. Maybe I over paid, but I made up for it buying a real nice 1913 Oct. bbl. M92 for $2,000. I still have both. Win some, lose some. Big Larry
Yes, and I believe that the sling eyes are indeed factory original to that SRC.
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
