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What happened to the approx. 294,000 Winchester 1895 Russian contract rifles?
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In 7.62 x 54R?  Some surface from time to time, but rarely.  I’m surprised there’s not a brisk market importing these back to the United States.  Unless most have been destroyed?7

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A large number came in in the 1950s-60s. They were sold by Ye Olde Hunter, in the gun magazines. They were in very used condition, and were about $15. There was very little interest in them at time, guys wanted surplus rifles they could convert to hunting rifles.

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wolfbait said
A large number came in in the 1950s-60s. They were sold by Ye Olde Hunter, in the gun magazines. They were in very used condition, and were about $15. There was very little interest in them at time, guys wanted surplus rifles they could convert to hunting rifles.
  

Yep, here’s one if ’em:

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1149256381

Don

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mrcvs said
In 7.62 x 54R?  Some surface from time to time, but rarely.  I’m surprised there’s not a brisk market importing these back to the United States.  Unless most have been destroyed?7
  

Most of them that still survive are forever stuck in Russia.  I believe that it was during the Clinton presidency when the reimportation ban was permanently enacted.

27 CFR § 447.52 – Import restrictions applicable to certain countries. | Electronic Code of Federal Regulations (e-CFR) | US Law | LII / Legal Information Institute (cornell.edu)

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They should be easier to track in Europe… yet they are not.

A few years ago, you could gert one in Finland for the equivalent of $700-1000.
These days are gone (or I do not know where to search any more)

Many have been converted into hunting rifle rechambered in 9.3x53R (a modified 7.62x53R) and they do surface from time to time, but have lost most of collector value.

For what we know, many that had survived the 1st WW were sent to Spain during the Civil War by the Soviets to help the Spanish Republicans, but the spanish arms market is quite tight and due to severe legal restrictions and we see none going out.

All of this might explain why they are quite rare in the USA.

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mrcvs said
In 7.62 x 54R?  Some surface from time to time, but rarely.  I’m surprised there’s not a brisk market importing these back to the United States.  Unless most have been destroyed?7
  

Hears one downunder for sale.

Usedguns

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Tony, he keeps putting it up. Been trying to sell it for ages. When he had a price up, it was idiotic. They are cheaper at the auction, even with the juice

A man can never have too many WINCHESTERS...

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wolfbait said
A large number came in in the 1950s-60s. They were sold by Ye Olde Hunter, in the gun magazines. They were in very used condition, and were about $15. There was very little interest in them at time, guys wanted surplus rifles they could convert to hunting rifles.
  

Do you know where were they imported from?

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wolfbait said
A large number came in in the 1950s-60s. They were sold by Ye Olde Hunter, in the gun magazines. They were in very used condition, and were about $15. There was very little interest in them at time, guys wanted surplus rifles they could convert to hunting rifles.
  

Do you know where were they imported from?
  

The ads sometimes gave a short history in their narrative. Ye Olde Hunter-Hunters Lodge advertised on the back page of the American Rifleman at that time. Many other importers also advertised in the American Rifleman at that time. I had 80 years of the American Rifleman magazine, but I gave them away when I moved. I may still have a few old ones around to check.

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What I have learned about these Russian 1895’s is they were very popular with the Russian soldier, and were used up. They weren’t something made in Russia so they weren’t rebuilt through a rebuild program. I understand Russia sent many to the SCW, and many here came in from Spain. The Ye Olde Hunter/Hunters Lodge imports are interesting, and I’m guessing were acquired from Spain through Sam Cummings. Finland had some when they gained independence from Russia. I doubt many were captured during the Winter War as Russia gave alot to Spain in 1936/7. My guess is there is not some big horde of them in Russia. The ones that made it over here in the US show significant wear on the few I’ve seen. Most here also show sanding and attempts at cosmetic improvements that were common to a $15 surplus rifle that was looked upon as cheap, with function being it’s main quality. Ground off bayonet lugs being another issue. They certainly aren’t cheap anymore.

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There is a guy on EBAY selling parts from Russian 1895’s that I have bought from. He is in Latvia. His EBAY seller’s name is marhebi. 

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There is a guy on EBAY selling parts from Russian 1895’s that I have bought from. He is in Latvia. His EBAY seller’s name is marhebi. 
  

I couldn’t seem to find him on Ebay.

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https://www.ebay.com/usr/marhebi 

Hopefully this works. I copied and pasted an EBAY link.  

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I just tried the link & apparently he is not currently on EBAY. Sorry. Bill

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Bill Yadlosky said
I just tried the link & apparently he is not currently on EBAY. Sorry. Bill
  

Thanks for trying. Reminds me….years back I bought a gun part(can’t remember what it was, maybe a magazine) from a guy in Latvia off Ebay. He sent me the wrong part, but wouldn’t respond to the problem until Ebay settled the issue in my favor. Then a month later comes back with a story, and wants me to send it back on my dime since it’s out of the Ebay system. I now wonder if it was the same seller.

What I need for my Russian 1895 is a nose cap screw. Somebody made up some a while back, but I missed out on that one. I’m still looking.

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Bill Yadlosky said
I just tried the link & apparently he is not currently on EBAY. Sorry. Bill
  

Thanks for trying. Reminds me….years back I bought a gun part(can’t remember what it was, maybe a magazine) from a guy in Latvia off Ebay. He sent me the wrong part, but wouldn’t respond to the problem until Ebay settled the issue in my favor. Then a month later comes back with a story, and wants me to send it back on my dime since it’s out of the Ebay system. I now wonder if it was the same seller.
What I need for my Russian 1895 is a nose cap screw. Somebody made up some a while back, but I missed out on that one. I’m still looking.
  

Contact Mark Douglas at Wyoming Armory.

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