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November 26, 2021 - 6:16 pm
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A Winchester M64 with the SN 1092709 is offered. However, the gun has a magazine tube up to the muzzle and is held at the front by a barrel ring.

The normal central bracket is also available. Was there really an M64 with a full magazine?

 

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I’ve never seen or heard of a full magazine on a M64.  I’m confident it was never a catalog offering.  It is interesting to think about.  Many Winchester lever action buyers liked full magazines.  I can imagine the occasional M64 buyer wanting a full magazine.  By the time the M64 came along with was less receptive to special orders than they had been with the preceding models.  But if, for whatever reason, they wanted to accommodate a customer’s request for a full magazine on a M64, it wouldn’t be all that difficult.  By the way, you don’t state if this model 64 is the rifle or carbine version?

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Back in the early 90’s I traded for a Model 71 with a full magazine. One of the high end dealers spotted it and made me an offer I couldn’t refuse.  I have always had second thoughts about selling it.  II seemed correct and the buyer seemed to believe that it was correct.  I will always wonder about that.  RDB

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Back in the early 90’s I traded for a Model 71 with a full magazine. One of the high end dealers spotted it and made me an offer I couldn’t refuse.  I have always had second thoughts about selling it.  II seemed correct and the buyer seemed to believe that it was correct.  I will always wonder about that.  RDB  

Roger – that sounds like a very cool piece.  Was it a rifle or a carbine?

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Here is the link to the offer:

https://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=14592356

 

The magazine tube end cap looks homemade to me. I consider them to be handicrafts

 

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 The rifle just does not feel right to me.Why go to the trouble of putting a barrel band,when a screw in end would work.Smile

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“Carefully worked up and restored by hand”

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In mühevoller Handarbeit aufgearbeitet und restauriert.   Translates to:“Carefully worked up and restored by hand”

The barrel has been shortened about 1/2 inch and the non original magazine added along with a carbine front barrel band so that a dovetail would not have to be cut into the underside of the barrel.   The fore end wood is also not a Model 64 style.

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In regards to the Model 71. It was a 24″ rifle.  I had the checked wood, but no bolt peep sight.  RDB

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In regards to the Model 71. It was a 24″ rifle.  I had the checked wood, but no bolt peep sight.  RDB  

Thanks for the update.  I would have loved to have seen it.  Odd Model 71’s have always intrigued me (e.g. those chambered in .33 WCF or .45-70).

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Well, the translation tells about all.  But even without benefit or such or any personal insight ‘stripes’ re Models 64, it looks like a gross ’tilt’ to me!  That weird upper barrel band pierced by the ramp front sight.  I’d not believe the Winchester factory ever to conjure, much less produce such design work.  “Amateurish and crude.  The midships band also looks misplaced and necessary at all???   Seems to me if someone wanted a full mag, better ways to handle the matter.  Notably the thirties + era ramps barrel integral, put the band behind such ramp….  Where on the 94 edition, it belonged!  The referenced weapon, a thumbs down here in my perspective.  

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