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July 8, 2012
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Thoughts? The letter doesn’t mention the shorter than standard barrel length. Cut down or factory??
August 27, 2014
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Is there a slight to moderate chamfer at the bore entrance? Really hard to tell, but doesn’t appear to be there
“If you can’t convince them, confuse them”
President Harry S. Truman
April 15, 2005
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Just my opinion, but I see it as a cut down standard Sporting Rifle. It appears to have been “restored”. The listed 21.75″ barrel length makes it highly suspect.
Bert
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November 8, 2011
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Based on the description, hard to know if the seller knows what he’s peddling. But, “highly suspect” seems quite generous
April 15, 2005
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sb said
Based on the description, hard to know if the seller knows what he’s peddling. But, “highly suspect” seems quite generous
I know this might be a bit of a shock to some of you, but I am trying to “mellow out” in the written responses that I post in my rapidly advancing years
Bert
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July 8, 2012
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Thanks for the reply’s. I’m of the same opinion, that it’s been cut down.
March 31, 2009
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Bert H. said
sb said
Based on the description, hard to know if the seller knows what he’s peddling. But, “highly suspect” seems quite generous
I know this might be a bit of a shock to some of you, but I am trying to “mellow out” in the written responses that I post in my rapidly advancing years
Bert
Usually, as many age, they go the other direction.
December 21, 2006
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Jeez Bert, don’t go getting all mellow and politiclly correct on Us, I like the “straight up”, it’s either black or it’s white approach I’ve always got from You, I don’t have to guess at what You’re sayin’.
W.A.C.A. life member, Marlin Collectors Assn. charter and life member, C,S.S.A. member and general gun nut.
April 15, 2005
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Chuck said
Bert H. said
sb said
Based on the description, hard to know if the seller knows what he’s peddling. But, “highly suspect” seems quite generous
I know this might be a bit of a shock to some of you, but I am trying to “mellow out” in the written responses that I post in my rapidly advancing years
Bert
Usually, as many age, they go the other direction.
I am more like fine Whiskey… I get smoother and mellower with age, but please don’t leave me in the old oak barrel for too long!
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April 15, 2005
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Henry Mero said
Jeez Bert, don’t go getting all mellow and politiclly correct on Us, I like the “straight up”, it’s either black or it’s white approach I’ve always got from You, I don’t have to guess at what You’re sayin’.
That is the 21-years of U.S. Navy Submarine training that still influences my written and verbal communication skills
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March 31, 2009
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Bert H. said
Henry Mero said
Jeez Bert, don’t go getting all mellow and politiclly correct on Us, I like the “straight up”, it’s either black or it’s white approach I’ve always got from You, I don’t have to guess at what You’re sayin’.
That is the 21-years of U.S. Navy Submarine training that still influences my written and verbal communication skills
Yep, humans were not supposed to be underwater that long without side effects. Navy form of PTSD. Do you get a little more each month for your mental issues?
April 15, 2005
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Chuck said
Bert H. said
Henry Mero said
Jeez Bert, don’t go getting all mellow and politiclly correct on Us, I like the “straight up”, it’s either black or it’s white approach I’ve always got from You, I don’t have to guess at what You’re sayin’.
That is the 21-years of U.S. Navy Submarine training that still influences my written and verbal communication skills
Yep, humans were not supposed to be underwater that long without side effects. Navy form of PTSD. Do you get a little more each month for your mental issues?
No, I do not, but if such a program existed, I would already be a Zillionaire!!
An old shipmate of mine recently sent this to me asking how many I wanted…
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June 4, 2017
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Bert, I like the shirt. T/R
April 15, 2005
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TR said
Bert, I like the shirt. T/R
I do too… but then again, I purposefully sank perfectly good ships at least several hundred times before deciding I shouldn’t do it again! The trick is making sure that the total number dives equals the number of surfacing’s… kind of like airplanes. Take-offs and successful landings need to be the same… and purposefully jumping out of, or ejecting from an airplane is not part of the plan!!
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September 22, 2011
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tionesta1 said
Thoughts? The letter doesn’t mention the shorter than standard barrel length. Cut down or factory??
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1143467326
If the barrel length doesn’t match the letter, best to move on! Even if it’s not mentioned in the letter and is correct, it doesn’t match the letter and will forever be a problem.
February 17, 2022
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A couple quick measurements ie, muzzle to front sight dovetail and width across the flats would do it. I would be willing to bet that the measure across the flats is wider than standard. Looks like there is some previous reconditioning there too.
June 26, 2013
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Interesting that the rifle sat in the warehouse over 9 years before it finally shipped. Evidently not much of a demand for the 38-70.
Don
April 15, 2005
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deerhunter said
Interesting that the rifle sat in the warehouse over 9 years before it finally shipped. Evidently not much of a demand for the 38-70.
Don
I have never understood why Winchester bothered with the 38-70 WCF. With the plethora of 38-55 Single Shot and Model 1894 rifles, the 38-56 WCF Model 1886 rifle, and the 38-72 WCF Model 1895 rifles, there was no reason why the 38-70 WCF was needed.
Bert
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November 7, 2015
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deerhunter said
Interesting that the rifle sat in the warehouse over 9 years before it finally shipped. Evidently not much of a demand for the 38-70.
Don
Apparently 21 3/4″ barrels weren’t too popular back then, either. All kidding aside wood has probably had some help but this one may be worth a closer look and a phone call to verify barrel length.
Mike
April 15, 2005
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TXGunNut said
deerhunter said
Interesting that the rifle sat in the warehouse over 9 years before it finally shipped. Evidently not much of a demand for the 38-70.
Don
Apparently 21 3/4″ barrels weren’t too popular back then, either. All kidding aside wood has probably had some help but this one may be worth a closer look and a phone call to verify barrel length.
Mike
Mike,
The CFM letter clearly indicates that the rifle was manufactured with a 26-inch barrel, and the pictures of the rifle indicate a much shorter barrel. Some enterprising shyster tried to make a valuable rifle even more valuable by turning it into a “Short” rifle. Fortunately, his efforts were all for naught.
Bert
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