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April 15, 2005
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Chuck said
Bert H. said
What is the serial number… I can look it up.
108063.
March 17th, 1909, in the warehouse on March 20th, 1909, and shipped (sold) March 22nd, 1909. Your rifle spent almost no time in the factory.
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September 19, 2014
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Bert, do you have any ideas why your example went back for R and R before it ever left the warehouse the first time? I have or have had models 1876 that had the caliber changed before going out of the warehouse. Tim
April 15, 2005
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tim tomlinson said
Bert, do you have any ideas why your example went back for R and R before it ever left the warehouse the first time? I have or have had models 1876 that had the caliber changed before going out of the warehouse. Tim
Tim,
I do not, but I suspect that it might be a misinterpretation of what is actually written in the ledger record, and it should be September 1919 versus 1918.
Bert
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Bert, Yes, there is that, too. Tim
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Bert H. said
Chuck said
Bert H. said
What is the serial number… I can look it up.
108063.
March 17th, 1909, in the warehouse on March 20th, 1909, and shipped (sold) March 22nd, 1909. Your rifle spent almost no time in the factory.
Was the serial number applied on the 17th of March? And in the warehouse on the 20th of March?
If my interpretation is incorrect, what is the shortest time you have seen from a serial number applied date to a received in warehouse date?
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mrcvs said
Bert H. said
Chuck said
Bert H. said
What is the serial number… I can look it up.
108063.
March 17th, 1909, in the warehouse on March 20th, 1909, and shipped (sold) March 22nd, 1909. Your rifle spent almost no time in the factory.
Was the serial number applied on the 17th of March? And in the warehouse on the 30th of March?
If my interpretation is incorrect, what is the shortest time you have seen from a serial number applied date to a received in warehouse date?
Serial number applied on the 17th, assembled and into the warehouse on the 20th, and shipped (sold) on the 22nd of March 1909. The shortest time lapse that I have found between serialization and then into the warehouse is just 1-day. The average time was 19-days.
Bert
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Bert H. said
mrcvs said
Bert H. said
Chuck said
Bert H. said
What is the serial number… I can look it up.
108063.
March 17th, 1909, in the warehouse on March 20th, 1909, and shipped (sold) March 22nd, 1909. Your rifle spent almost no time in the factory.
Was the serial number applied on the 17th of March? And in the warehouse on the 30th of March?
If my interpretation is incorrect, what is the shortest time you have seen from a serial number applied date to a received in warehouse date?
Serial number applied on the 17th, assembled and into the warehouse on the 20th, and shipped (sold) on the 22nd of March 1909. The shortest time lapse that I have found between serialization and then into the warehouse is just 1-day. The average time was 19-days.
Bert
I corrected my post. And so it sounds like, especially with such a short turnover, that Winchesters had to have been fitted from already completed components.
For example, how long after being blued could blued components be handled, and how long did that take? And finish to stocks? And case colouring? I would imagine longer time frames involved checkering, especially if less common patterns, and certainly engraving?
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mrcvs said
Bert H. said
mrcvs said
Bert H. said
Chuck said
Bert H. said
What is the serial number… I can look it up.
108063.
March 17th, 1909, in the warehouse on March 20th, 1909, and shipped (sold) March 22nd, 1909. Your rifle spent almost no time in the factory.
Was the serial number applied on the 17th of March? And in the warehouse on the 30th of March?
If my interpretation is incorrect, what is the shortest time you have seen from a serial number applied date to a received in warehouse date?
Serial number applied on the 17th, assembled and into the warehouse on the 20th, and shipped (sold) on the 22nd of March 1909. The shortest time lapse that I have found between serialization and then into the warehouse is just 1-day. The average time was 19-days.
Bert
I corrected my post. And so it sounds like, especially with such a short turnover, that Winchesters had to have been fitted from already completed components.
For example, how long after being blued could blued components be handled, and how long did that take? And finish to stocks? And case colouring? I would imagine longer time frames involved checkering, especially if less common patterns, and certainly engraving?
You are asking questions that cannot be accurately answered… unless you find a time machine that would allow me to go back and spend a few weeks observing the daily operations that took place at the Winchester factory in the late 1800s to early 1900s.
Bert
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I know a couple of blokes called Marty and Emmet that may be able to help you out Bert…
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April 15, 2005
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Chris D said
I know a couple of blokes called Marty and Emmet that may be able to help you out Bert…
I am not strapping my butt into an old rattle-trap Delorean and then accelerating to 88 mph! 
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Bert H. said
I am not strapping my butt into an old rattle-trap Delorean and then accelerating to 88 mph!
I can tow your rattle-trap Delorean behind my Dodge Cummins at 88 mph and not even know it is there…..when my gauge hits 2175 rpm you will be back to the future. 
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JWA said
Bert H. said
I am not strapping my butt into an old rattle-trap Delorean and then accelerating to 88 mph!
I can tow your rattle-trap Delorean behind my Dodge Cummins at 88 mph and not even know it is there…..when my gauge hits 2175 rpm you will be back to the future.
I would rather just strap myself into my old Dodge Cummins and run her up to the time warp speed… and I can get the old girl up to 117 @ 3,200 (redline on the Tack)
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Bert H. said
JWA said
Bert H. said
I am not strapping my butt into an old rattle-trap Delorean and then accelerating to 88 mph!
I can tow your rattle-trap Delorean behind my Dodge Cummins at 88 mph and not even know it is there…..when my gauge hits 2175 rpm you will be back to the future.
I would rather just strap myself into my old Dodge Cummins and run her up to the time warp speed… and I can get the old girl up to 117 @ 3,200 (redline on the Tack)
I’m all done with triple digit speeds, I’ll do 85 on some of the lonesome stretches of Wyoming but that’s about it. I used to push a Crown Vic well past 100mph on a regular basis but can’t say I’d enjoy it much these days. I broke off a pursuit at 140 once, pretty sure it wasn’t a DeLorean because I didn’t notice anything falling off it. I can tell you at anything over about 90 when things start happening they do so at an incredibly rapid rate.
Mike
