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Hey guys, I just inherited this Winchester model 64 in .30-30 from my father. It was his first rifle that he ever purchased, back in 1970 or so.
I have a few questions.
Approximately what year was this manufactured in?
How do I remove the front sling stud so that I can install a modern UMK stud to properly utilize the pictured sling? Is it just threaded?
This may seem like heresy, but are there any magazine extensions? Probably won’t, but I’m curious.
Thanks for the help guys!
Your Model 64 was manufactured in the first half of the year 1948.
The sling eyes currently on the rifle were not factory installed, so I cannot tell you exactly how to remove the forward sling eye. You will need to disassemble the front end of the rifle to determine how it was attached to the nose cap.
The Model 64 was only offered with the one magazine tube length. I am unaware of any aftermarket (longer) magazine tubes.
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
Is the sling swivel too short to go through the forend sling eye? If yes, you could either get a deluxe style forend cap (which will probably have the same problem) or you could buy a Winchester sling swivel and put it on the sling. That’s probably the easiest route….probably a $50 project. If you want to make it look much better, get the deluxe forend cap and the Winchester sling swivel. I think I have a Winchester 64 deluxe that someone ground the forend cap down to accept a model swivel.
The swivel is most likely inserted into a hole and peened in place. A smart person may have beveled the hole on the inside to provide a more secure attachment. It may be easiest to grind off the outside portion and tap out the remaining section. The cap is to thin to thread. Wouldn’t a Model 94 Magazine tube fit the gun?
THIS ALL STARTED WITH JUST ONE GUN!
Old Guns said
The swivel is most likely inserted into a hole and peened in place. A smart person may have beveled the hole on the inside to provide a more secure attachment. It may be easiest to grind off the outside portion and tap out the remaining section. The cap is to thin to thread. Wouldn’t a Model 94 Magazine tube fit the gun?
The milled groove in the mag tube (for the mag ring pin) is in a different location on a Model 94 mag tube.
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
Thanks for the replies everyone.
No, the current studs on the rifle aren’t too thick, and the Uncle Mike’s sling swivel on the sling does close and function. But the studs on the rifle have a hole that’s wider in diameter than the swivel bar, which allows the sling to have lateral movement as well as rotational, not that big of a deal really. Since the swivels are sewn into the sling, replacing them isn’t an option.
It seems like replacing the front stud wouldn’t be as easy as I thought, and I’m thinking that I’ll just leave it as is. It functions and I don’t think that the extra movement will wear out or break the swivels anyway.
Looks like the rifle is going to stay as is, but with a good cleaning and oiling and… Shooting!
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Hey guys, I just inherited this Winchester model 64 in .30-30 from my father. It was his first rifle that he ever purchased, back in 1970 or so.
I have a few questions.
Approximately what year was this manufactured in?
How do I remove the front sling stud so that I can install a modern UMK stud to properly utilize the pictured sling? Is it just threaded?
This may seem like heresy, but are there any magazine extensions? Probably won’t, but I’m curious.
Thanks for the help guys!
Don’t mess with family guns. Leave it as your Dad had it.
Could you put a thin wall sleeve over the sling swivel bar and make it fit tighter?
With the caution that the guy talking here about needs a hardhat as employing a hammer… 🙂
Any possibility of simply opening up the offending swivel base ‘eye’ sightly with a drill, ‘if’ enough residual metal to function securely. Also, no heresy intended here, but wondering if a Marlin 336 “RC” tube would be adaptable to your quest.
With due respect to ‘family originality’ notion, my dad would have said “…enjoy and do what you want with it.” With respect to residual ‘collector” originality…’ Leaving such opinions to experts here such as Bert!
The admission here & now, that perhaps myself to have been a ‘world class’ Bubba! Such but for huge personal lack of inertia! So little inertia, not to mention skills; lack of. Now claiming personally responsible for preserving many guns simply by endless ‘contemplation’, aka laziness, deferring action! 🙂
Good luck and…
Nice rifle!
The Model 64 Winchesters are great rifles.Have a number of them myself.If it were myself ,I would leave the rifle as it is and keep it in the family ,just as your Dad had used the rifle.Just my opinion.:)
Joseph;
Just my opinion – If this rifle was mine, I would try an original Winchester swivel (super grade) to see if it would fit better plus look better. The shaft of Winchester swivel is .012″ wider than the uncle mike. I know it would require removing and redoing the stitchs. A leathercraftsman can do this nicely.
I have an original Winchester swivel that I could send you on a trial bases to see if it fits and looks better. Just a idea. Your call.
RR
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