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April 3, 2024 - 12:03 pm
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I’m wondering about this 1907 built 1894 rifle in 32ws. 

It has a Nickel Steel 20” barrel and a 2/3? magazine

The forearm measures at approximately 9 3/8”

I can’t find where this forum discusses muzzle diameter on the 20” SR’s but this one is approximately .729-.730 

It where’s a “smokeless” 32ws marked rear barrel sight, and unfortunately a Redfield on the receiver. 

Looks like it’s seen a lot of honest use. 

Im terrible at searching and successfully finding things on this forum but figured others would chime in:

1) What would be proper terminology for this length magazine?

2) Is the muzzle diameter correct for a 20” SR?

3) Is it known how many 20” nickel steel barrels were produced?

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Do you have any additional pictured of the rifle… specifically a close up of the magazine tube end cap, the front sight dovetail, and the muzzle face?

Based on what I am seeing, my initial thought (reaction) is that it is a cut down standard Sporting Rifle.  The magazine tube length is neither a ½ nor a ⅔ length magazine.  If it is factory original, it was special ordered for a specific number of cartridges (most likely four). 

Winchester manufactured several thousand 20-inch Nickel Steel rifle barrels, and several hundred thousand 20-inch carbine barrels.

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April 3, 2024 - 10:35 pm
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I’ll get them Bert, my gut reaction was cut down barrel – the taper looks off.

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My money is on a cut down rifle.  Specifically, the front sight appears to be too close to the muzzle, and the magazine tube end cap is the wrong type for a short mag.

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April 7, 2024 - 12:33 am
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I appreciate the feedback Bert!

I’m not familiar with the specifics of the short rifles but the thing that stuck out to me the most was the muzzle diameter seemed too large.

I picked it up very reasonably so I wasn’t worried about originality either way, but figured I’d ask. 

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