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Will post pics of a pad that was purchased recently—I’m probably not the first victim of finding a nice rifle in good condition with a poorly installed recoil pad.
Needing to “Spruce up” an Ugly old Whiteline pad on an otherwise attractive Model 71
Trying to make the “Best of a bad situation”
Looks like it will be an improvement—if installed well. PH
Paul, I’m no expert but CSC makes a solid [unventilated] patent date Winchester pad that I believe would be the most correct for your Model 71. The one you illustrate is for later Winchesters.
The correct one is still catalogued by CSC.
This reproduces what Winchester would have installed if a Model 71 [1936 to 1957] had been ordered from WRA with a pad, unless the order specifically requested a different pad.
If I have erred in this advice, one of our true experts on the subject will please jump in and correct me.
- Bill
WACA # 65205; life member, NRA; member, TGCA; member, TSRA; amateur preservationist
"I have seen wicked men and fools, a great many of both, and I believe they both get paid in the end, but the fools first." -- David Balfour, narrator and protagonist of the novel, Kidnapped, by Robert Louis Stevenson.
Thanks for the heads up. The one I posted won’t work it’s too small to cover. Nice quality —just too small. PH
I think the one I pointed out will cover all of the classic Winchester lever actions. If there’s any doubt, just call them and they will give you the dimensions.
- Bill
WACA # 65205; life member, NRA; member, TGCA; member, TSRA; amateur preservationist
"I have seen wicked men and fools, a great many of both, and I believe they both get paid in the end, but the fools first." -- David Balfour, narrator and protagonist of the novel, Kidnapped, by Robert Louis Stevenson.
Thanks Zeb for the help. This 71 stock wasn’t shortened too much. Still has almost 13 inch LOP inside the pad
Apparently just enough to remove the “widows peak”
I went ahead and ordered the one you recommended and we’ll see how it goes. “If” the dimensions listed on the sales page are correct it might be almost perfect. PH
Paul, I don’t think you’ll be disappointed. I’ve seen several fairly hard-kicking Winchestet rifles fitted with the same CSC pad and they look righteous.
I once owned a used 1956 Model 70 Featherweight 30/06 that came to me with its aluminum buttplate gone and a brown ventilated Pachmayr “Whiteline” pad properly installed. It was in good shape so I left it alone because the rifle was quite accurate with Winchester Supreme 180 grain Ballistic Silvertips. Five rounds at the bench was very easy but 10 really required you to think about your trigger.
I sold that rifle to my hunting partner to stop him from forcing hundred dollar bills down my throat. If I’d kept it, I would have ordered the same pad you just did.
It may just be my faulty memory but I think almost all the Model 71 standard [non-Special] grade rifles I’ve seen at shows had been fitted with recoil pads of one brand or another. While we worship originality and the craftsmanship and elegance of the old shotgun style, checkered steel buttplates, the boys who bought the plain jane style of the gun likely used the money saved to have a rubber pad put on, since they planned on shooting it a lot. Those were more likely a workingman’s rifle, to be carried and shot more than a couple of rounds a year..
- Bill
WACA # 65205; life member, NRA; member, TGCA; member, TSRA; amateur preservationist
"I have seen wicked men and fools, a great many of both, and I believe they both get paid in the end, but the fools first." -- David Balfour, narrator and protagonist of the novel, Kidnapped, by Robert Louis Stevenson.
Hey Zeb thanks again for your input and help. This 71 is in very good condition and deserves an “honest and dignified” attempt to reclaim as much of its original “mojo” as possible.
Just because the patient was injured doesn’t mean we have to call “Hospice”. He just needs minor surgery and a good bandaid.
I’m still actively chasing down a rumor that there exists a good OEM long tang uncut buttstock in my general area.
Winchester should have supplied 2 buttstocks as an option with all these heavy recoil models. One with fancy wood for looks and one made from “Ironwood” with a shock absorber for the “Field”.
PH
Paul H said
Winchester should have supplied 2 buttstocks as an option with all these heavy recoil models. One with fancy wood for looks and one made from “Ironwood” with a shock absorber for the “Field”.PH
Or plastic… like the Hydro-coil stock!
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
Bert H. said
Paul H said
Winchester should have supplied 2 buttstocks as an option with all these heavy recoil models. One with fancy wood for looks and one made from “Ironwood” with a shock absorber for the “Field”.
PH
Or plastic… like the Hydro-coil stock!
Please, not while I’m eating. I saw a Model 12 stocked with the “Maple” version of the Hydro-Coil, on display at McBride’s. To understate the case, that M12 looked like it had fallen from the top of the Ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down.
- Bill
WACA # 65205; life member, NRA; member, TGCA; member, TSRA; amateur preservationist
"I have seen wicked men and fools, a great many of both, and I believe they both get paid in the end, but the fools first." -- David Balfour, narrator and protagonist of the novel, Kidnapped, by Robert Louis Stevenson.
Zebulon said
Bert H. said
Paul H said
Winchester should have supplied 2 buttstocks as an option with all these heavy recoil models. One with fancy wood for looks and one made from “Ironwood” with a shock absorber for the “Field”.
PH
Or plastic… like the Hydro-coil stock!
Please, not while I’m eating. I saw a Model 12 stocked with the “Maple” version of the Hydro-Coil, on display at McBride’s. To understate the case, that M12 looked like it had fallen from the top of the Ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down.
OK, but you will need to send me your meal schedule 
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
While I’ve got your attention, how is the plastic from which the Hydro-Coil stocks were made holding up? The reason I ask is those were a pretty early use of polymers for gunstocks.
I know Dupont’s “Zytel” I think it was called, still shows up at shows on Remington 22 automatics. And on the triggerguard/floorplate and ventilated ribs of the 600 series bolt action carbines. That stuff gets a little dull after 60 years and needs a little ArmorAll to make it like new.
Olin’s consolidated glass wire I know holds up. Young son’s Model 59 barrels look “as new” to this day..
But the Hydro-Coil material looked like Mattel might have had a hand in it. Perhaps I’m prejudiced…
- Bill
WACA # 65205; life member, NRA; member, TGCA; member, TSRA; amateur preservationist
"I have seen wicked men and fools, a great many of both, and I believe they both get paid in the end, but the fools first." -- David Balfour, narrator and protagonist of the novel, Kidnapped, by Robert Louis Stevenson.
Zebulon said
While I’ve got your attention, how is the plastic from which the Hydro-Coil stocks were made holding up? The reason I ask is those were a pretty early use of polymers for gunstocks.I know Dupont’s “Zytel” I think it was called, still shows up at shows on Remington 22 automatics. And on the triggerguard/floorplate and ventilated ribs of the 600 series bolt action carbines. That stuff gets a little dull after 60 years and needs a little ArmorAll to make it like new.
Olin’s consolidated glass wire I know holds up. Young son’s Model 59 barrels look “as new” to this day..
But the Hydro-Coil material looked like Mattel might have had a hand in it. Perhaps I’m prejudiced…
I do not know the answer to your question. I do know that the hyro-coil mechanisms were prone to failure though (the primary reason Winchester discontinued them). It would not surprise me if Mattel had a hand in plastic material used by Winchester.
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
November 7, 2015
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I bought what appeared to be a reasonable facsimile of a red Winchester pad for my Model 12 (Y) from Brownell’s awhile back and even did a halfway decent job of installing it. It’s an unfortunate fact of collecting Winchesters that a rubber recoil pad will not last as long as the shotgun or rifle. The repro I bought looked very much like the one I took off.
Mike
My 1950 Model 70 Super Grade has an original very red solid pad I’m pretty sure came from the factory installed on the rifle. It benefitted from being wiped down gently with ArmorAll.
- Bill
WACA # 65205; life member, NRA; member, TGCA; member, TSRA; amateur preservationist
"I have seen wicked men and fools, a great many of both, and I believe they both get paid in the end, but the fools first." -- David Balfour, narrator and protagonist of the novel, Kidnapped, by Robert Louis Stevenson.
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