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I am not a member of your forum but I read it occasionally. I thought I would make a small contribution and pass this on.
In the upcoming Rock Island Auction is a pre 64 model 70 Winchester in 284 Winchester caliber, serial number 569834, lot #469.
This rifle, serial number 569834, was previously sold by Rock Island Auction at their MAY 2 2014 auction as lot # 265 for $3450.
It was sold in 2009 on Gunbroker as a pre 64 model 70 serial number 569834 in 270 caliber for $901.00.
I heard they grew in value as time went on, but I did not know the caliber grew with age.
Like the listing says, refurbished. It is a real model 70 just refurbished.
Anyway, I thought your readers might enjoy looking at these listings, their pictures and descriptions and come up with their own conclusions.
When I went to post this, it did not let me include the links. I am sorry I had to delete them. You will have to do a little search of the description and serial number to get to the sites to see the pictures. Sorry.
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Great sleuthing!
Sadly, some exuberant buyer will fork over good money for this rifle. If the barrel is genuine, then I suppose there is some real scarcity and value there. However, the fact this gun is a “created” rifle, and that this has been concealed by the seller, it makes me wonder if the barrel itself is also a fake.
For others, here are the links:
Current .284 – http://www.invaluable.com/auction-lot/pre-64-winchester-model-70-featherweight-bolt-act-469-c-e9144c0b0a
2014 .284 – http://www.invaluable.co.uk/auction-lot/pre-64-winchester-model-70-featherweight-bolt-act-265-c-f2ce863533
I can’t see any way to go back 7 years on Gunbroker, but I don’t doubt it. It seems this story is all too common anymore. One more vote for creating a global serial number database to begin tracking these things.
Justin
This is why I have never sold the 2 .300 Savage barrels I have for the model 70.I did sell one many years ago before the rarity of this chambering was known and always have wondered if someone faked a gun with it. I will just hang on to them and hope to find someone with an original barrel that is shot out or damaged.
Robert Delk said
This is why I have never sold the 2 .300 Savage barrels I have for the model 70.
We need more of this.
When I first started selling model 70 parts, I was excited to come across some rare barrels, which I immediately bought up, then resold. I was actually quite naive for not thinking about what people would do and claim once they had these barrels in their hands… I was clueless to the fact there was a whole industry built on faking rare guns. Many years later, I am much wiser – wiser about what I buy and wiser about what I sell.
Like you, we now sit on some rare barrels which will never see the light of day. If they were sold, they would almost certainly be used to create a counterfeit “rare” gun. If the opportunity ever arises, we would sell them to a trusted customer with a legitimate use for them. But we are not going to position ourselves as an enabler for the trade that is doing so much to harm the collector value of the model 70.
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