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mrcvs said
Steven Gabrielli said
I have 3 days…Excellent!
Trust me, return it.
I’ve been collecting for over 30 years now, you can do far better.
Ok so now I’m losing sleep, I had emailed the seller’s store asking a few questions last week, he answered and said “if I wanted it, he would close the auction and save me the tax”. I was like good deal. Now I have no recourse with Gunbroker if he says no refund! Live and learn, I’ll see what he says.
If it says you have a 3 day return policy, you have a 3 day return policy, correct?
Not to say there isn’t a bargain or two on Gunbroker every now and again, but the huge problem is that you have access to it from the comfort of your home, as does everyone else with a computer connection and a wallet. It’s also a notorious dumping ground for misrepresented and over represented firearms, most of which are overpriced.
Do your homework first. Best way, IMHO, is to place low ball bids at brick and mortar auction houses and eventually you will hit pay dirt. Make sure the auction house doesn’t misrepresent as well, as auction houses can be dumping grounds as well.
Given you seek a relatively unpopular caliber (.32 Special), you should be able to find something top notch for not a whole lot more.
For example, here’s an upcoming offering at Rock Island Auction Company (RIAC), a very nice .32 Special Model 1894, with the correct smokeless rear sight. Pre auction estimate is $2000 to $3000. It could go for well more than $3000, or it could hammer at well less than $2000. Don’t forget about the buyers premium, however.
And, it’s all original! Not refinished, no replaced barrel, and is neat as it has a half magazine and is takedown, which are both special order features.
RIAC is the biggest firearms auction house out there and they seem to get the biggest bids. If you search for other auction houses, you might find something else in similar condition for a bit less perhaps, but without the special order features. I should think that, in time, you could find something for well under $2000.
I would much, much rather be into the one I have presented for $3000 plus any associated fees than the one you presented at $1195.
The auction house route, I should have mentioned, takes patience. Gunbroker allow for instant gratification. You pay for that…a LOT!
https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail/83/3030/winchester-model-1894-lever-action-takedown-rifle
That seller has very good feedback. I would think that he’d probably take it back and refund the purchase if you wait till you receive it and then tell him you’d like to return it.
But, I don’t think he’s done anything wrong. You made a deal with him and he appears to have disclosed everything about the gun. If he sees this thread, he may figure you’ve developed buyer’s remorse.
sb said
That seller has very good feedback. I would think that he’d probably take it back and refund the purchase if you wait till you receive it and then tell him you’d like to return it.But, I don’t think he’s done anything wrong. You made a deal with him and he appears to have disclosed everything about the gun. If he sees this thread, he may figure you’ve developed buyer’s remorse.
I never said he did anything wrong, but how did he disclose a re-chambered rifle, by taking a picture of re-stamped caliber stamp? While I noticed the caliber stamp was off, I never would have put the conclusion that was determined here.
He didn’t disclose the rifle was altered to .32 Special. He also did not disclose a compass in the stock. That further hurts the value.
Like I said, mail this one back without even opening it. 100% satisfactory guarantee, 3 day return privileges. This would provide very little satisfaction. Pay return postage and send back to the seller and cut your losses.
mrcvs said
He didn’t disclose the rifle was altered to .32 Special. He also did not disclose a compass in the stock. That further hurts the value.Like I said, mail this one back without even opening it. 100% satisfactory guarantee, 3 day return privileges. This would provide very little satisfaction. Pay return postage and send back to the seller and cut your losses.
LOL I like the compass! If the compass presents in the factory letter, does that still hurt the value of a gun?
Here’s where the seller obtained it from, in all probability. Lot 101 of this auction? I wonder what it sold for then? (05 June 2021)
https://carrauction.com/auction/firearms-ammo/
To the OP: Buy at an auction such as this one, avoid the middleman and his markup.
mrcvs said
Here’s where the seller obtained it from, in all probability. Lot 101 of this auction? I wonder what it sold for then? (05 June 2021)https://carrauction.com/auction/firearms-ammo/
To the OP: Buy at an auction such as this one, avoid the middleman and his markup.
Thats it alright, but how do you buy like this, its 1 picture!
sb said
Sold for $850 plus whatever premiums
I just saw that. So he really didnt make much. He paid the shipping and waived CC fees for me being a combat veteran and I didnt pay tax. So in the end if I bought from Carr, I would have paid more. I still like the rifle, if it has no issues chambering, I think i’ll keep it to hunt pigs.
Certainly do what you want. From both a collecting and investment standpoint, returning it is your best bet.
sb said
Certainly do what you want. From both a collecting and investment standpoint, returning it is your best bet.
I second that!
Steven Gabrielli said
Thats it alright, but how do you buy like this, its 1 picture!
You need to attend in person which means small local auction houses, or purchase nationally from an auction house that provides many photographs. Most auction houses will provide specific photographs upon request.
Steven Gabrielli said
I just saw that. So he really didnt make much. He paid the shipping and waived CC fees for me being a combat veteran and I didnt pay tax. So in the end if I bought from Carr, I would have paid more. I still like the rifle, if it has no issues chambering, I think i’ll keep it to hunt pigs.
It doesn’t matter what he paid for it, it matters what he has into it. It may be he brought this one with just the one photograph and realized he overpaid for it and is just trying to move it to make back what he has into it.
You can easily find other, better guns to hunt pigs with.
November 7, 2015
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What happened, Steve? I hope things worked out well for you.
Mike
TXGunNut said
What happened, Steve? I hope things worked out well for you.
Mike
TXGunNut said
What happened, Steve? I hope things worked out well for you.
Mike
I kept it. The barrel is original, has all the patent markings in the correct places, def rechambered to 32WS as you can plainly see the dash leftover from probably the 32-40 marking.
Bore is excellent. Still waiting on the factory letter. Since it’s a 1902, I didn’t want to fire high pressure 32 WS like I did in the 1950 M92. I loaded some lower pressure rounds, but have not fired them yet.
I figured the rechambering is part of the history, appears to me many 32-40s were rechambered, I am not a fanatic in “as left the factory” criteria as long as the piece is not a parts / bubba gun.
looks very nice, I had to keep it!
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