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November 8, 2011
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I recently looked at an antique Winchester model 1892. It was an interesting gun in 44-40 with a half round barrel. Both the receiver and barrel had proof marks on them and the barrel has an address that is from a later time frame….maybe, 1908 or so.
I sent in to the museum for the letter information on it before buying it and I was quite surprised to learn that it letters as a 32-20. What do you make of this? The gun is not a high condition gun and it looks legit…..
April 15, 2005
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Was there a “R&R” entry for it in the ledger information? If not, you should assume that someone other than Winchester reworked it and put the proof mark stamps on it.
Bert
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June 4, 2017
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The 32/20 is small frame and the 44/40 is large, how does that work? T/R
November 8, 2011
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No R&R listed
November 8, 2011
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TR said
The 32/20 is small frame and the 44/40 is large, how does that work? T/R
That’s why i thought it was so odd
November 2, 2009
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Anyone that knows anything about the 1892 model, should know that it is virtually impossible to change a .44 to a .32. Winchester would never have done this, simply because it was cost prohibitive. The factory was very contious of the fact that their customers trusted them to make a decision that would be of benefit to the customer as far as rework was concerned. I dought they would think changing a .44 to a .32 would benefit the customer financially. My guess is that either the researcher at the museum made a mistake or the original entry in the ledger was a mistake from the get go.
March 20, 2009
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sb said
I recently looked at an antique Winchester model 1892. It was an interesting gun in 44-40 with a half round barrel. Both the receiver and barrel had proof marks on them and the barrel has an address that is from a later time frame….maybe, 1908 or so.I sent in to the museum for the letter information on it before buying it and I was quite surprised to learn that it letters as a 32-20. What do you make of this? The gun is not a high condition gun and it looks legit…..
Hello SB,
What is the serial number of the rifle? Can you post or send me some images of the gun and all of the stamped writing on it?
Michael
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April 15, 2005
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win4575 said
Anyone that knows anything about the 1892 model, should know that it is virtually impossible to change a .44 to a .32. Winchester would never have done this, simply because it was cost prohibitive. The factory was very contious of the fact that their customers trusted them to make a decision that would be of benefit to the customer as far as rework was concerned. I dought they would think changing a .44 to a .32 would benefit the customer financially. My guess is that either the researcher at the museum made a mistake or the original entry in the ledger was a mistake from the get go.
It is the opposite in this case… a 32 WCF was possibly changed to a 44 WCF, and that is certainly possible if someone was intent on doing it.
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
June 4, 2017
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sb, If you had good pictures of the gun, including pictures with the forearm removed showing the area of the receiver were the magazine tube fits in, I think the question would be answered. Factory, Bubba, or ledger error. If it doesn’t feed and fire smoothly it’s probably Bubba. T/R
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