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I have a model 1894 takedown deluxe SN 143496 (1902), half octagon, half mag, that I cannot take down. I’ve unscrewed the mag tube all the way out, opened the action and tried to turn, but it won’t budge. I’ve even tapped on the butt stock with my hand and it still won’t loosen. I don’t think this has been taken down in a very long time. There is no rust, and everything is clean. Any ideas?
Thanks,
Al
January 26, 2011
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I’ve had them stick like that as well. Lay it on its side, add some Kroil along the takedown seam, and just let it sit for a few hours. You might have to soak both sides. Sometimes you have to use a rubber mallet, or just your hand to give it a few good hits to make it come loose. Once you get it apart the first time, clean and oil it and it should be much easier going forward. I doubt there is anything wrong with it, just a good fit, and a half a century of being mated up without disassembly.
~Gary~
Al: I got the info you sent by PM. Thanks. I only have 3 other rifles in the 143,000 range so this helps.
Paul
pdog72 said
I’ve had them stick like that as well. Lay it on its side, add some Kroil along the takedown seam, and just let it sit for a few hours. You might have to soak both sides. Sometimes you have to use a rubber mallet, or just your hand to give it a few good hits to make it come loose. Once you get it apart the first time, clean and oil it and it should be much easier going forward. I doubt there is anything wrong with it, just a good fit, and a half a century of being mated up without disassembly.
Gary:
Take care not to let the Kroil pool onto the takedown ring or varnished wood. It will permanently damage the finish of both.
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Rick,
Are you saying that Kroil will harm the bluing on the Take Down extension ring?
Bert
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Thanks. From what I understand kroil won’t harm bluing, but will damage the varnish. I’ll take extra care.
Al
Bert H. said
Rick,
Are you saying that Kroil will harm the bluing on the Take Down extension ring?
Bert
Bert H. said
Rick,
Are you saying that Kroil will harm the bluing on the Take Down extension ring?
Bert
Bert:
Yes it will discolor the finish on the take-down ring.
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thanks Rick. I think I need to figure a way to get the Kroil only in the joint, and not on the surface of the takedown ring or forearm stock. Perhaps apply it sparingly with a dropper of some sort?
Hmmm… I have used Kroil for a vey long time with no ill effects on Winchester’s factory bluing. Typically, I apply it to blued steel and leave it soak for up to 24-hours, then I use a 100% pure copper wool scrub pad wetted with Kroil to gently scrub all rust and crud off of the blued steel surfaces. After the using the Kroil, I clean the steel with acetone and then oil it very lightly. Thus far, I have not seen any discoloration, but to be honest, I have not used it on a Take Down Model 1894 yet.
Bert
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January 26, 2011
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Rick
Thanks for mentioning the contact with the wood, yes, I am always careful of that. As for the bluing, I guess I don’t recall seeing any issues with using Kroil, but open to hear any example stories you have.
Thanks,
~Gary~
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