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October 8, 2016
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I have two Pre-64 Model 94s, both produced after WWII but before 1955. Loading the rifles is slightly tricky in that you must catch the rim of the cartridge on the Loading Gate to prevent it from being pushed back over the Shell Carrier and blocking the gate. Once you have put the last cartridge into the Magazine Tube, you free up the Loading Gate to allow the cartridge to move back. You cannot add ammunition to the rifle till the magazine has been emptied so you can start over. I heard someplace that this was a known deficiency in some Pre-64 Model 94s that Winchester chose to ignore. If so, is there a way to correct this by replacing a part? As I have never needed to re-load one of these rifles in the middle of a charge of hostile White Tail Deer, this is only annoying but I would love to fix it if possible.
March 20, 2010
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If the rifle wasnt feeding cartridges from the tube, carrier, and into chamber that would be one thing. When the breech is closed there should not be anything in the carrier. The cartridge does not move into the carrier until the breech is cycled rearward. I understand what you are experiencing as sometimes the spring for the loading gate is super stiff or the edge of the loading gate slightly catches on the edge of the cartridge rim. Try using the nose of the bullet to push at the edge of the loading gate (in a steep angled manner) to push that loading gate past the rim of the cartridge and slide then slide round in the magazine tube. Some require a little more force. If that doesnt work then we can look at other possibilities.
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October 8, 2016
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Thank you. I’ll give it another try.
Jim
December 27, 2007
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Seems odd that both rifles would have that problem. So, yes, let’s hope Chris’ suggestion works.
It’s not the cartridge-stop, or the cartridges would run a bit farther behind the loading gate and jam the action?
July 19, 2013
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I’ve got an M94 carbine made in 1952, and experienced the same loading issue.
Chris’s procedure works, and takes a little repetition to ease the process.
I have found a secondary push with the round downward on the loading gate drops the gate slightly more…. almost a snap a notch lower, then the round pushes in fine.
It is tricky, and seems the loading gate downward edge hangs on something, then releases downward with the extra push by the round tip.
Bill
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