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Picked up this Model 1892 at a small estate auction. It’s not in the best of condition but I have never held an old Winchester with a 2 digit serial number (27). I am definitely going to get it lettered since it appears to be all original. I would love any feedback y’all have to offer on this gun. 
WINCHESTER BABE
Hello Darlene
i just got to my ranch but will definitely take s closer look at your rifle in the morning. How come I don’t have that kind of luck???
michael
Model 1892 / Model 61 Collector, Research, Valuation
twobit said
Hello Darlenei just got to my ranch but will definitely take s closer look at your rifle in the morning. How come I don’t have that kind of luck???
michael
Michael, LOL, I look forward to telling you the rest of the story. It is a “DOOZY”! Thank you. Looking forward to visiting with you about the gun.
Darlene
WINCHESTER BABE
Darlene,
I sent you a PM with my phone number.
Michael
Model 1892 / Model 61 Collector, Research, Valuation
Hello Darlene,
It was great talking with you earlier today. Congrats on the wonderful purchase. Please take the rifle outdoors and take LOTS of photos iin the open shade so that I can document this for the survey.
This will help with the photos:
http://www.gunvaluesboard.com/we-really-need-some-photos-to-help-you-better-1420.html
I will be happy to help you out.
Thanks,
Michael
Model 1892 / Model 61 Collector, Research, Valuation
Michael, thank you for all the info, I will take it outside and get some pics, as you suggested. I thoroughly enjoyed talking to you. The letter is ordered and they are gonna call back tomorrow with the info on the gun. I’m looking forward to confirming what I already know.
Thanks Again,
Darlene
WINCHESTER BABE
Got the info from CFM, the rifle letters out but I have a question…..It says that the rifle was received in warehouse on May 03, 1892 and says it was received in warehouse August 23, 1892. Why would it list 2 dates received in warehouse? It shipped 2 days after it was received in August.
WINCHESTER BABE
WinchesterBabe said
Got the info from CFM, the rifle letters out but I have a question…..It says that the rifle was received in warehouse on May 03, 1892 and says it was received in warehouse August 23, 1892. Why would it list 2 dates received in warehouse? It shipped 2 days after it was received in August.
Hi Babe,
Is that politically correct nowadays???
When studying the ledgers for the Model 1892 it appears that the rifle may have had a bit of a bumpy roll out from production. The rifle first appears in early May in the warehouse but approximately 75% of the first 300 guns must have been reworked for some reason and then came back into the warehouse during August and slightly later and then were shipped out. There are actually several rifles with a notation that they were “Ret WRACo” and have two shipping dates implying that they left Winchester but were recalled, in todays language, to then be reworked and later shipped out again. As of this time in my research I have no idea what the initial delay may have been. Hopefully research in the Cody research library will fill in the blank.
Michael
Model 1892 / Model 61 Collector, Research, Valuation
Michael,
I don’t know if this helps with your research, but I have SN’s 202 & 203. I know I sent you a picture, but I don’t remember if I sent you the info from Cody. They both had serial numbers applied on April 22nd, 1892. SN 202 was received in warehouse on August 13th and shipped of August 15th. SN 203 was received in warehouse and shipped on August 17th. There are no special notations on the letters. Seems like quite a lot of early ’92’s shipped in August, 1892.
Mark
Mark Douglas said
Michael,I don’t know if this helps with your research, but I have SN’s 202 & 203. I know I sent you a picture, but I don’t remember if I sent you the info from Cody. They both had serial numbers applied on April 22nd, 1892. SN 202 was received in warehouse on August 13th and shipped of August 15th. SN 203 was received in warehouse and shipped on August 17th. There are no special notations on the letters. Seems like quite a lot of early ’92’s shipped in August, 1892.
Mark
Hello Mark,
I do have 202 and 203in my data. Though I could use some photos of 202. It looks like the may release rifles pretty much re-entered the warehouse in August for most of them. Some day I may take a more detailed look.
Michael
Model 1892 / Model 61 Collector, Research, Valuation
Makes sense now. Thanks so much for the info. I will get some good pics either this Sunday or Monday. The steakhouse has me strapped with Christmas parties & caterings right now.
Congrats on the consecutive rifles Mark! That’s AWESOME!
WINCHESTER BABE
twobit said
Hi Babe,
Is that politically correct nowadays???
When studying the ledgers for the Model 1892 it appears that the rifle may have had a bit of a bumpy roll out from production. The rifle first appears in early May in the warehouse but approximately 75% of the first 300 guns must have been reworked for some reason and then came back into the warehouse during August and slightly later and then were shipped out. There are actually several rifles with a notation that they were “Ret WRACo” and have two shipping dates implying that they left Winchester but were recalled, in todays language, to then be reworked and later shipped out again. As of this time in my research I have no idea what the initial delay may have been. Hopefully research in the Cody research library will fill in the blank.
Michael
Oh yea, Michael, I am great with being called Babe! ??. No liberal hangups over my way! ?.
WINCHESTER BABE
WinchesterBabe said
Congrats on the consecutive rifles Mark! That’s AWESOME!
Thanks Darlene. I collect mostly 1895’s and have two 2-digit guns and four 3-digits along with an unserialized prototype. I’m not sure, but I think the fascination with serial numbers is a form of OCD. 
BTW, the SN 29 1892 was for sale for a long time by a well known dealer. As I recall, he stated in his description that it was thought to be the earliest surviving 1892 until SN 1 surfaced.
At $15,000, I thought it was overpriced by quite a bit, but it’s no longer listed on his website, so I assume it sold. It’d be interesting to know the final price. I was interested in it because I have SN 29 in 1895, but decided trying to collect a specific serial number might be pushing my OCD just a little too far. 
twobit said
Hello Mark,
Though I could use some photos of 202.
Michael
Michael, I’ll shoot some photos of 202 over by e-mail this evening.
Mark
I was interested in it because I have SN 29 in 1895, but decided trying to collect a specific serial number might be pushing my OCD just a little too far.
Mark, I have thought of trying to do the same thing but it would take a huge amount of time in the search for them. It is hard enough to stumble onto consecutive numbered rifles. And thanks for the offer of the photos.
Michael
Model 1892 / Model 61 Collector, Research, Valuation
Winchester 1873 serial number 27 was for sale in Northern Virginia about 20 years ago.
mrcvs said
Winchester 1873 serial number 27 was for sale in Northern Virginia about 20 years ago.
Are you trying to cause trouble by stirring the pot???? LOL
Michael
Model 1892 / Model 61 Collector, Research, Valuation
twobit said
Are you trying to cause trouble by stirring the pot???? LOL
Michael
If I recall correctly, this gun had condition and a ridiculously high price tag. I know for a fact it was serial number 27. Now, had the gun or serial number been monkeyed with? Too long ago for me to recall. I do know this particular shop had some high end stuff, so to have something like this in stock would not be unusual. I also know they had at least a slight problem with ethics, so there is at least a fair chance that what, at first glance, looked like a museum quality piece might not have been as such.
If anyone cares to run serial number 27 for an 1873 at Cody and report the findings here, perhaps it might jog my memory a bit.
Mark Douglas said
Thanks Darlene. I collect mostly 1895’s and have two 2-digit guns and four 3-digits along with an unserialized prototype. I’m not sure, but I think the fascination with serial numbers is a form of OCD.
BTW, the SN 29 1892 was for sale for a long time by a well known dealer. As I recall, he stated in his description that it was thought to be the earliest surviving 1892 until SN 1 surfaced.
At $15,000, I thought it was overpriced by quite a bit, but it’s no longer listed on his website, so I assume it sold. It’d be interesting to know the final price. I was interested in it because I have SN 29 in 1895, but decided trying to collect a specific serial number might be pushing my OCD just a little too far.
twobit said
Hello Mark,Though I could use some photos of 202.
Michael
Michael, I’ll shoot some photos of 202 over by e-mail this evening.
Mark
Mark,
Glad to find out that you are a 1895 man. When I get a chance I would like you to look at some pics of my 1895 with a factory stainless steel barrel, serial # 72xx.
Darlene
WINCHESTER BABE
mrcvs said
Winchester 1873 serial number 27 was for sale in Northern Virginia about 20 years ago.
As much as I would like to chase some low numbered guns, I better direct my OCD habits towards the steakhouse since that’s what makes it possible for me to collect ! ??. But I love hearing the stories of these finds.
Darlene
WINCHESTER BABE
WinchesterBabe said
Mark,
Glad to find out that you are a 1895 man. When I get a chance I would like you to look at some pics of my 1895 with a factory stainless steel barrel, serial # 72xx.
Darlene
Darlene,
I looked at the pictures you posted on your other thread. It’s a very interesting rifle. Were you able to learn anything from Cody about whether the barrel was replaced by Winchester?
To my knowledge, very few 1895’s have turned up with stainless steel barrels.
Mark
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