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Hello, can someone tell me The correct distance of the magazine mount from the reciever to the center of the dovetail on a model 94 rifle. Would it be the same for 22 inch and a 26 inch barrel? Thank you for any help.
Mark,
The distance is measure from the muzzle face to the retaining pin in the center of the retaining ring, and it is different for a solid frame versus a Take Down.
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
The model 94 I have is a solid frame and has a 22″ octagon barrel, .75″ from muzzle face to front site front dovetail, about 7 5/8″ from muzzle to magazine mount retaining pin, and the rear site is 5″ from receiver. The front stock screw is 9 13/16″ from receiver. I got my letter from Cody today and does not mention a barrel length, which I think means it was a 26″ barrel. My question is, if the barrel was cut down, wouldn’t the dovetails be in the wrong place. The Barrel markings are what looks like a small half moon, a “D”, 32-40, VP inside an oval, a small star and “94”. Also do I need something else from Cody to identify stock, butt plate, finish, etc. Thanks for your help.
January 26, 2011
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Mark,
It sounds like the barrel has been cut. The fact that the CFM letter makes no reference to the barrel length strongly suggests that it started out as a full length 26″ rifle. The other clues are:
- The magazine retaining band is in the wrong position, (it should be 3.8″ to 3.9″ from the muzzle end)
- The front sight center of dovetail should be 1″
- About 80% of 22″ short rifles have the rear sight positioned at 4″ from the receiver, and the fore end wood is 8 3/8″ long. I’m guessing yours is 9 3/8″
~Gary~
Thanks for your help Gary,
The rifle is in poor condition but is an early one, shipped 1898, so plan on hanging on the wall. I’m just having a hard time with the dovetail locations. The front sight is 1″ to center by the way. If a 26″ barrel was shortened by cutting the muzzle by 4″ and re-cut the sight dovetail, wouldn’t the dovetail for the magazine retaining band be closer to the muzzle by 4″. Unless you are saying that the original dovetail for the 26″ barrel is 4″ or less and both of them were cut off by shortening the barrel and both re-cut, then it makes sense. So is the correct position for the magazine band on a 26″ barrel also 3.8 to 3.9 inches? Also there is no stock information on the Cody letter, does that mean none is available? Thanks for all your help!!!
Mark
January 26, 2011
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Mark,
The band position would have been the same on the 26″ barrel (3.8 – 3.9) so when they cut down the barrel is was lost along with the front sight slot obviously.
If there is no stock information then it should have been a standard crescent butt with straight grain wood for your rifle.
~Gary~
Thanks so much for your help. Everyone has been very helpful. Thank you!!! This rifle has an interesting story that only it knows. My dad found it sticking out of the ground in Powder River country of Wyoming back in the 1940’s. How it got there will remain a mystery. Thanks again.
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