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I am working on a provenance research project on an 1866 rifle with Serial Number 18668. Since the factory information is not available, I am looking for anyone that may have information on this rifle. I have ownership and sales information going back to the 1950’s. Looking for any additional information that anyone may have if you have come across this rifle in your travels or research. Thanks
May 2, 2009
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I don’t have anything on that one.
Bob
WACA Life Member--- NRA Life Member---- Cody Firearms member since 1991 Researching the Winchester 1873's
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November 2, 2009
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Can’t help you with info on this carbine, but I’m curious to know what the makers cartouche says on the scabbard. Also the block lettering above the cartouche.
The cartouche on the scabbard is S.A. Wade Maker Rosenberg, Tex above that is P.D. Salmons Richmond Tex. I am working with the Galveston Texas Historic Society to help track down these names and when this scabbard would have been made.
March 31, 2009
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Data here says 1868 but I don’t know how that was extrapolated?
November 2, 2009
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Serial #18668 was sold by Morphy auction in March of 2016. It is listed as a .44 Henry Center Fire. Scabbard as illustrated, is marked F. D. Salmons Richmond, Texas as well as S. A. Wade, Rosenberg, Texas. Confusing to say the least. Wade was not an early maker (circa 1900). Salmons worked for a man in Owingsville, Kentucky who had a patent on what he called a “Kentucky Spring Seat Saddle”. His name was Minihan and he was in business until 1926. Scabbard clearly does not date to the period of the carbine.
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win4575,
Thanks for the information. I have the info on the rifle regarding Morphy Auction and the owner from that auction. I am in touch with the family trying to find out who owned prior to the 1950s. The information regarding the Scabbard is very interesting. Just based on the looks of the scabbard, I doubted it was the 19th century. I will do some follow-up research on the Salmons/Minihan information. It is very interesting to connect the firearms to the accessories!
Dennis
March 16, 2005
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You might want to try the Ft. Bend county historical society. Richmond is the county seat, and Rosenberg is a neighboring city.
P O Emerson
March 31, 2009
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[email protected] said
Chuck,
1868 for the production year of the rifle?
Yes. Look on the top of the page under Resources. Then When was my Gun Made. Fill in the Model and Serial #.
This info is based upon the data in the Cody Museum.
On this rifle, anyone in the association that might be familiar with this rifle, either as a former owner or have any records prior to being in the Bill Stewart Collection in Sonora Texas. I have spoken with the Stewart family. I am researching the provenance of this. I know the factory records are not available.
Thanks
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