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July 8, 2012
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I know this late pre-war model 94 carbine is nice, but never thought it would’ve sold for this much.
April 15, 2005
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tionesta1 said
I know this late pre-war model 94 carbine is nice, but never thought it would’ve sold for this much.
Me either. That stated, the seller made out quite well, as two collectors got into a serious “Mine’s bigger than yours” contest. The Model 94 219 Zipper he sold went for a more realistic price (still a bit high in my opinion though).
Bert
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March 21, 2016
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Yep that’s A LOT, but be hard to find a better condition 79 year old Winchester anywhere.
And the seller has a very good rep, so not much risk that it isn’t what he states it is.
He typically seems to get more for his listings than many other sellers.
Winchester Model 1873 44-40 circa 1886
November 1, 2013
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Bert H. said
…two collectors got into a serious “Mine’s bigger than yours” contest.
Bert
Every auctioneer’s & seller’s dream come true! And now, anybody with one in similar cond. will probably assume his is worth as much.
March 21, 2016
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What do you guys feel it’s actually worth?
Winchester Model 1873 44-40 circa 1886
April 15, 2005
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Kevin Jones said
What do you guys feel it’s actually worth?
Approximately 50% of what it sold for, and that is still being slightly generous.
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July 8, 2012
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Bert H. said
Approximately 50% of what it sold for, and that is still being slightly generous.
That’s about what I figured it should have sold for also.
March 21, 2016
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AG(Rick C) said
What about the price this went for? Expected?
Evidently the early production wasn’t enough to make up for the 94’s poor condition.
Winchester Model 1873 44-40 circa 1886
April 15, 2005
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AG(Rick C) said
What about the price this went for? Expected?
I am of the opinion that it sold at a reasonable enough price, based on it being a 38-55, Antique, and someone liked the 3-digit serial number. It would sold for more if it had been a First variation.
Bert
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May 24, 2012
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I was not surprised that it passed the $4,000.00 mark.
James
Bert H. said
I am of the opinion that it sold at a reasonable enough price, based on it being a 38-55, Antique, and someone liked the 3-digit serial number. It would sold for more if it had been a First variation.
Bert
Good eye Bert. I agree & did not notice there was no 10 o’clock screw. I was focused on the 1894 shipping date and the serial number 919 thinking it was a first variation.
AG(Rick C)
November 7, 2015
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Kevin Jones said
What do you guys feel it’s actually worth?
Will be hard to find one that old in better condition so IMHO it’s worth what the buyer, seller and losing bidder feel it’s worth. I honestly don’t know why anyone would pay that much but someone did. Rather impressive time capsule, not much more.
Mike
November 7, 2015
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Bert H. said
AG(Rick C) said
What about the price this went for? Expected?I am of the opinion that it sold at a reasonable enough price, based on it being a 38-55, Antique, and someone liked the 3-digit serial number. It would sold for more if it had been a First variation.
Bert
Had no idea the second variation started that early. Once again, looking forward to that article, Bert. Maybe we can talk about it in Cody in a few weeks.
Mike
April 15, 2005
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TXGunNut said
Had no idea the second variation started that early. Once again, looking forward to that article, Bert. Maybe we can talk about it in Cody in a few weeks.
Mike
Mike,
I have a very strong suspicion that the Cody show is not going to happen in July. The Wyoming Governor just extended the social gathering limitations, and the Cody Stampede Rodeo has been cancelled (along with several other large rodeo events throughout the month. I suspect that the BOD will be making the call on the show status soon.
Bert
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January 7, 2014
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tionesta1 said
I know this late pre-war model 94 carbine is nice, but never thought it would’ve sold for this much.
Just happened to notice that the instruction manual is a later date than the rifle. Winchester’s Corporate name in 1941 was Division of Western Cartridge Co. Not Division of Olin Industries Inc. Maybe the rifle was not shipped until 1945. Nice rifle.
Dick
November 17, 2011
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The Winchester pre-war model 94 shows all the outstanding colors and workmanship of more desirable Models from Winchester. Not so well heeled collectors can get some of the glory at relatively inexpensive prices with a 94. The subject gun is worth that cost for sure and will only go up. I have sold several like new no box 94’s from the 1950’s for $2500 each. I think the forum members on this board are used to the good old days when a mint 94 went for $500 or so tops. New buyers pay more now.
CJS57 said
The Winchester pre-war model 94 shows all the outstanding colors and workmanship of more desirable Models from Winchester. Not so well heeled collectors can get some of the glory at relatively inexpensive prices with a 94. The subject gun is worth that cost for sure and will only go up. I have sold several like new no box 94’s from the 1950’s for $2500 each. I think the forum members on this board are used to the good old days when a mint 94 went for $500 or so tops. New buyers pay more now.
CJS57, can I get the names of your $2500 1950’s m94 buyers? Lol
I agree 100% the good ole days buying condition for $500 are gone.
AG(Rick C)
November 19, 2006
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I’ve been following Chayns and Austin Guns auctions for years. They routinely get very top dollar (and above) for their pieces. It is a testament to their reputations and the fine pieces they offer. I also see it as a testament to the fact that collecting isn’t dead. I would also say it is a testament to the ever growing power of internet sales. I think if you were to take the pieces they sell and then place them on gun show tables with price stickers for the winning bid they received on the internet – they mostly wouldn’t sell. Of course with internet (or other auctions) you can get that auction factor where it becomes more about ego than the piece itself. Extrapolating value from auction sales is not reliable. Oh, and with some auctions there is the, “shill” factor – which I believe is rampant on internet auctions. And to clarify, I don’t believe that is the case with Chayns or Austin’s auctions.
November 19, 2006
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AG(Rick C) said
CJS57, can I get the names of your $2500 1950’s m94 buyers? Lol
I agree 100% the good ole days buying condition for $500 are gone.AG(Rick C)
During my earliest trips to a sporting good store with my Dad, you could buy all the new-in-the box, pre-64 carbines you wanted. And that was at most any sporting goods store in the country. Somewhere around a hundred bucks if I recall. 😉
