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April 15, 2005
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Here is another FAKED Winchester;
Winchester Model 64 Deluxe 35 Remington -RARE- for sale (gunsinternational.com)
I surveyed this rifle late last year when it was still a standard 30-30.
Winchester 64, 30-30, SN:1778690 | Proxibid
Bert
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September 22, 2011
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Wow, it says POR and sale pending. I think someone somewhere got snookered badly this evening.
April 15, 2005
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mrcvs said
Wow, it says POR and sale pending. I think someone somewhere got snookered badly this evening.
I contacted the seller, and I suspect that he is in the process of delisting it.
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November 7, 2015
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Bert H. said
mrcvs said
Wow, it says POR and sale pending. I think someone somewhere got snookered badly this evening.
I contacted the seller, and I suspect that he is in the process of delisting it.
Yep, gone. Coming soon to an auction site or show table near you!
Mike
June 1, 2023
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What a coincidence that it is the same handful of dealers who keep coming up with these hidden “gems.” 
BRP
January 27, 1992
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Isn’t that the same vacinity where C. H. Key is from? 
RDB
December 9, 2002
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Interesting, to say the least!
Tigers don’t change stripes!
Anthony
March 31, 2009
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TXGunNut said
Bert H. said
mrcvs said
Wow, it says POR and sale pending. I think someone somewhere got snookered badly this evening.
I contacted the seller, and I suspect that he is in the process of delisting it.
Yep, gone. Coming soon to an auction site or show table near you!
Mike
Yep, gone. Listed as sold.
December 9, 2002
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I’ve noticed that sometimes these unscrupulous character’s, will remove something in question, like was said, and listed elsewhere as the M O, changes but the product stays the same, with different wording!
Like what was said, it will show up again some where! 
Anthony
January 20, 2023
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Bert H. said
mrcvs said
Wow, it says POR and sale pending. I think someone somewhere got snookered badly this evening.
I contacted the seller, and I suspect that he is in the process of delisting it.
Well done. The listing by Bear Arms Promotions has been removed, although I note Guns International says I’m too late because the item has been sold. That is skating pretty close to the edge, is what I think, although GI helpfully included a link to the would-be seller’s other wonderful merchandise. Useful information but not necessarily for the reason given.
And this instance is an excellent — really, prototypical — example of why ALL prospective buyers wanting to invest in collectible Winchesters should first become full and active members of WACA. The few dollars required to maintain a membership are not only the cheapest tuition a Winchester enthusiast will ever spend to learn the subject matter but can also be ludicrously cheap insurance against buying a rouged-up pig in a poke.
I would no more look to “invest” five or ten thousand dollars in a putatively high condition, 90 year-old Winchester 1886 all by myself [without getting numerous opinions from our true experts] than I would go shopping in Algiers for a piece of the True Cross, similarly priced. I’m not sure there’s very much difference between the two marketplaces.
- Bill
WACA # 65205; life member, NRA; member, TGCA; member, TSRA; amateur preservationist
"I have seen wicked men and fools, a great many of both, and I believe they both get paid in the end, but the fools first." -- David Balfour, narrator and protagonist of the novel, Kidnapped, by Robert Louis Stevenson.
February 17, 2022
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Late to the party here, did they ever actually make 64’s in 35 Remington? Seems strange to me to do that.
April 15, 2005
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oldcrankyyankee said
Late to the party here, did they ever actually make 64’s in 35 Remington? Seems strange to me to do that.
No, Winchester did not. The Model 64 was chambered for all of the same cartridges found in the Model 1894 and in late 1936, the 219 Zipper (a squeezed down 25-35 WCF).
Bert
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February 17, 2022
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Bert H. said
oldcrankyyankee said
Late to the party here, did they ever actually make 64’s in 35 Remington? Seems strange to me to do that.
No, Winchester did not. The Model 64 was chambered for all of the same cartridges found in the Model 1894 and in late 1936, the 219 Zipper (a squeezed down 25-35 WCF).
Bert
That’s what I thought. Even 38-55 is a rare bird for a 64.
August 8, 2024
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Bear Arms Promotions has listed alot of non-cataloged Model 70s with concerns. I did not see the Model 64 listed in .35 Remington, but from the above it seems that he listed it. Bert, thank you so much for pointing this out. Fake guns are something that we will always have to deal with. WACA has done alot to bring this to light.
April 30, 2023
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Bert H. said
Here is another FAKED Winchester;Winchester Model 64 Deluxe 35 Remington -RARE- for sale (gunsinternational.com)
I surveyed this rifle late last year when it was still a standard 30-30.
Winchester 64, 30-30, SN:1778690 | Proxibid
Bert
Surveyed just a year ago in orig config…good evidence that it was done maliciously. I will block that seller so I don’t forget.
December 9, 2002
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WOW!
That’s another good heads up Jeremy!
I also made a note, and he has a whole list of high priced stuff for sale! I didn’t waste time even looking!
Anthony
November 7, 2015
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I didn’t notice the chambering until it came up again in a subsequent post. Bad move on their part, nothing like a “35 Rem” stamp on a Winchester to attract closer scrutiny. I wonder if it will actually chamber and fire a 35 Remington round. Looks like someone went to a lot of trouble to make a decent gun something it never was.
Mike
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