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Exceptional M1873 .44-40 Deluxe for sale
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https://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-for-sale-online/rifles/winchester-rifles-model-1873/winchester-1873-deluxe-44-40.cfm?gun_id=101269415

It makes the price tags of some of the other model deluxe grade rifles we’ve looked at in recent days, not seem so high.

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Beautiful rifle. It’s another situation where you can say it’s overpriced but at the same time ask how many 1873’s  this nice have you been able to buy lately? Been on the market for awhile, wonder how much he’s turned down for this rifle. I really like the rifle but it’s just eye candy for me. I’ll never play in that ballpark.

 

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I agree.  This is a beautiful 2nd model ’73.  It does appear that is has the wrong tang sight.  It’s a very nice Lyman, but the staff should be just a bit forward of the center of the base.  My guess is that it may be for an ’86.  IMHO.

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It is a nice 73 but it is $38,500 USD. That is nearly $53,000 Australian! 

For that money, the fore end should fit better than it does. 

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Aussie Chris said
It is a nice 73 but it is $38,500 USD. That is nearly $53,000 Australian! 

For that money, the fore end should fit better than it does.   

You got me started.  I don’t like the forearm fit either. It almost looks like the gap on the front has been filled? Or is it me?  You guys know how cautious about this I am.  Look at the fit of the buttplate especially at the toe.  Does the wood seem exposed here, too long?

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win4575 said
I agree.  This is a beautiful 2nd model ’73.  It does appear that is has the wrong tang sight.  It’s a very nice Lyman, but the staff should be just a bit forward of the center of the base.  My guess is that it may be for an ’86.  IMHO.  

I personally think this is a super 73. I am hoping 73man or others knowledgeable about sights will have more to say about the tang sight. It would be nice to know if the sight(s) are mentioned in the factory records – sometimes sights are recorded in the ledger, sometimes they are not. For example, here is a 73 of mine for which the records are totally silent on sights – that may be because the gun left the factory with standard sights. Note it has a Lyman tang sight which appears to be original to the gun but you never know. Certainly I would not and did not pass on this gun because it had the sight.

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Burt – What can I say?  That is one beautiful, special order Model 1873.  Actually two of them as I believe one photo is of a .22 rimfire.  Beautiful pieces.  Tremendous eye candy.

What is your opinion on the forend gap that Chuck pointed out?  I had noticed that gap.  I will say I’ve seen that gap before.  I wouldn’t say it is common, but I wouldn’t call it uncommon.  There is also the gap issue with the buttplate that Chuck mentioned.  

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Mr Humphrey ; How could You possibly show us two fine rifles like that and not feel a little sympathy for us.

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As others have noted the  tang sight is wrong for a 73. Its either a 86 or SS sight. Sights letter only 4.3% of the time. The forearm wood looks real and I don’t see any filler added. It either has shrunk which is common with burled wood forearms or has been swapped.

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As others have noted the  tang sight is wrong for a 73. Its either a 86 or SS sight. Sights letter only 4.3% of the time. The forearm wood looks real and I don’t see any filler added. It either has shrunk which is common with burled wood forearms or has been swapped.

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Bob – I believe when I have seen a forearm gap on other rifles, most have been fancy wood forearms.  I suppose, as you say, that type wood is more prone to shrinkage.

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The first thing I look at on a gun is the serial number. I like the serial numbers on 50783, the bottom of the 7 drops below the others, the horns on the 8, and a classic tight curl on the top of the 3. This is the style I look for on late 1st and early 2nd model 73’s. Winchester stamped those numbers! The tang sight comes off with two screws and the forearm can be tighten by reversing or replacing the tenon. Nice gun, but a lot of money. T/R

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Looks like X or XX wood to me. XXX? Geez……

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  The grading of wood does not always reflect the end result. I have seen 2X wood look nicer than 3X and vise-versa. I’ve been told the blank was graded before it was cut and availability of fancy wood changed with supply at the time. T/R

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This is the wood on my 73 and it’s not graded in the letter. I’ve had lettered x wood on other rifles not as nice as this.

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Rick – very pretty wood!

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Here is XXXX,

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this one letters  X stock,

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They sure put some beautiful wood on them early rifles!   terryLaugh

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1873man said
Here is XXXX,

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this one letters  X stock,

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Bob, does the letter actually say X or is it just stamped on the tang?

Again you guys have to remember that my mentor faked a lot of guns so I am overly cautious when it comes to shrunken wood.   I recently asked his wife to go through or let me go through his records so I could list the guns he worked on or had built.

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It states “X Stock” on the letter.

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Wowsers!! Nice gun Bob.

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