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hello new to forums ,i have an 1894 ser. 838 full nickle plated delux wood pistol grip checkered.Ihave read that all produced in 94 were first edition mine appears to be a second edition was also wondering if it may be one of the first to be nicle plated. thanks for any help
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Bubba 84,
You did not read accurate information… there were a fair number of Model 1894s made in the year 1894 that were second models. First models were predominant in the first 3,000 or so Model 1894s made, and were nearly exclusive to those made for the 38-55 cartridge. The 1st second model discovered thus far was serial number 543.
Per the survey conducted by the Cody Firearms Museum and published in the ARMAX Vol V, serial number 838 was the first nickel plated Model 1894.
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
Bert thank you for the reply ,great to have some more info on my old 94 glad to know it was the first to be nickle plated .thank you again
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Bert H. said
You are welcome.
Bert
Bert was wondering if i should have this professionally refinished ,the wood is in great shape with most all of its high gloss finish intact but the nickle is in need of repair on receiver and lever or would this ruin any value i have thanks in advance
You would ruin the collector value. I do not know anyone who can duplicate the original Winchester nickel plating correctly.
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
January 26, 2011
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Bert
Did you notice that s/n 838 is listed as passing thru the warehouse on 1-15-94. I’m guessing this is a typo and should be 1-15-95 since the earliest ’94s are in Oct. 1894, correct? Anyway, any nickel plated 1894 is quite a rare find, especially the first one…….very cool rifle to own.
Bubba
Do you have a letter on this rifle? Just curious what the dates read.
~Gary~
Gary,
Yes, and yes it is a typo.
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
pdog72 said
BertDid you notice that s/n 838 is listed as passing thru the warehouse on 1-15-94. I’m guessing this is a typo and should be 1-15-95 since the earliest ’94s are in Oct. 1894, correct? Anyway, any nickel plated 1894 is quite a rare find, especially the first one…….very cool rifle to own.
Bubba
Do you have a letter on this rifle? Just curious what the dates read.
pdog72,yes i have the letter from the cody museum,i will check the dates and get back to you. i will try to get some pictures n try to down load. last time i tried the details did not show very clear because of glare from the plating in the light.,
the serial number was applied NOV.21 1894 ,rec and shipped JAN.15 1895 according to the letter from cody museum
bubba 84 said
the serial number was applied NOV.21 1894 ,rec and shipped JAN.15 1895 according to the letter from cody museum
What does the rest of the letter say?
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
bert, type rifle,caliber 38/55 ,barrel type octagon,trigger plain,checkered stock pistol grip ,full nickel,order number 4365. regards bubba 84
Bert i have emailed you some pics hope they find you as i am quite technology challenged
I received the pictures and sent you a reply.
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
January 26, 2011
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Bubba,
Would you mind if Bert posted the pictures? We would sure like to see your early, nickel plated 1894.
~Gary~
yes Bert is free to post the pictures i sent him they are not the best of photos as i only took them with my phone and the lighting is not the best.
Gary, i hope you will not be disappointed
it is not as pretty as some i have seen on here but it is honest wear for an old barn gun regards bubba
OK, here are the pictures (I had to crop/edit most of them to reduce the file sizes).
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
Wow, very nice and appears unmolested. DO NOT refinish it!
While not perfect it shows honest wear and age on a very desirable configuration and low serial number.
Thanks for sharing the photos (and thanks to Bert for posting them).
Best Regards,
WACA Life Member #6284 - Specializing in Pre-64 Winchester .22 Rimfire
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