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Do these proof marks look fun funky?
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June 6, 2018 - 4:33 am
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It’s my opinion that this carbine has been refinished.  No saddle ring wear and the markings, especially the proof marks look re-stamped or engraved.  Compare the proof marks to other Winchesters and there’s an obvious difference.

https://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-for-sale-online/rifles/winchester-rifles-lever-pre-64/fine-winchester-deluxe-model-1894-src.cfm?gun_id=101047633

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June 6, 2018 - 1:54 pm
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Yes, they look funky to me.  I agree, it looks like the receiver proof has been chased with a graver.

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June 6, 2018 - 2:20 pm
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Way to suspicious…I would stay clear away from that one. Peter

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That receiver has been re-blued in my opinion. Just too pristine, and as Don has pointed out, no saddle ring wear at all. 

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Barrel and receiver are refinished and re-proofed as well. One of the Ray Bentley guns from Julia. I am disappointed Merz is selling it like that. He knows what it is.   

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A prominent and respected member of the antique firearms community told me after Ray Bentley”s passing that Ray didn’t like anything that wasn’t 100%, but when he acquired much (most?) of his stuff, it wasn’t nearly so pristine.  Caveat emptor!

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June 7, 2018 - 3:24 pm
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Looks like listing has been pulled (or sold).

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pulled from his website as well…….

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