Avatar
Search
Forum Scope




Match



Forum Options



Minimum search word length is 3 characters - maximum search word length is 84 characters
Lost password?
sp_Feed sp_PrintTopic sp_TopicIcon
Commemorative Coca Cola carbine 94AE XTR value
Avatar
Mike Schaller
Member
WACA Guest
Forum Posts: 5
Member Since:
June 19, 2015
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
1
April 15, 2020 - 3:49 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print

I noticed one of these carbines for sale for $1700.  Can anyone tell me what is the value for one of these Winchesters?  These are not listed in my 5 year old Blue Book.  Just like the DeKalb seed company rifles aren’t, either.  But, the Canadian Pacific Centennial rifles are.  I am interested in purchasing one of these just because my wife’s family used to own a coke bottler long ago.  Thanks.  Mike

Avatar
Bert H.
Kingston, WA
Admin
Forum Posts: 12846
Member Since:
April 15, 2005
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
2
April 15, 2020 - 4:45 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print

Hello Mike,

What is the serial number on the subject Carbine? I have my doubts that it is a true “commemorative” Model 94. More than likely it is a “limited edition” that the Coca Cola company commissioned someone to make after purchasing them from the U.S. Repeating Arms Company.

Bert

WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
High-walls-1-002-C-reduced2.jpg

Avatar
Mike Schaller
Member
WACA Guest
Forum Posts: 5
Member Since:
June 19, 2015
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
3
April 15, 2020 - 11:28 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print

I bet you are correct.  All I know is it is 1028 out of 2500.  It looks so gaudy that I would doubt that Winchester would make it!  Mike

Avatar
Henry Mero
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 1382
Member Since:
December 21, 2006
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
4
April 16, 2020 - 12:26 am
sp_Permalink sp_Print

A few years back I had 3 Coca-Cola Edition Winchester carbines. I bought them in Florida, took them to a show in Atlanta and sold 2 of them for what I had in all 3, $3,000.00, so I got one for “free”lol. You’re correct they are not a Commemorative but a limited edition. Ford, Dodge and Chevrolet did the same thing. The story goes that Coca-Cola ordered 2500 of them but cancelled the order part way thru, due to a change in command at Coca-Cola who didn’t like the idea of their name on a gun. The guns(about 1200) as I recall, went into storeage and were later sold to a wholesaler, along with a bunch of shotguns. This was all told to Me by Bud Davies (deceased) a good friend of mine and Commemorative dealer/collector.

W.A.C.A. life member, Marlin Collectors Assn. charter and life member, C,S.S.A. member and general gun nut.

Avatar
iskra
Member
WACA Guest
Forum Posts: 347
Member Since:
February 18, 2011
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
5
April 17, 2020 - 6:54 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_EditHistory

Well… Surely “different ‘strokes’ for different folks…” And I do believe that’s just what John Browning would likely ‘incur’; conjuring that very genetic core his rifle to have spawned. This…!
Though in mitigation, the eighteen nineties era celebrating the 1894 as another Browning genius creation. In some ways, paralleling in popularity if not story reflecting the early days of Coca Cola. That small creation of decade earlier, by nineties the unique ‘charisma’ of Coke arrived; literally! The atypical story of small startup; building the better wheel; based on energy, ingenuity, creativity vision… And cocaine! Conjuring the commemorative Coca Cola Winchester perhaps somehow suggesting the very spirit of a cocaine inspired vision!
Myself, born in ’40, growing up with Coke and the ever happy ads, from wartime victory to wholesome peacetime America. I enjoyed Coke and particularly (factoid) the bottle price unchanged from inception through late fifties; five cents for 12 oz! Happily, Coke as rightly centered core America memories!
Just my take
John

Avatar
Mike Schaller
Member
WACA Guest
Forum Posts: 5
Member Since:
June 19, 2015
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
6
April 18, 2020 - 2:35 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print

Thanks for the replies.  I see the differentiation between a true commemorative and the “limited edition”.  Apparently, that is what happened with the Dekalb Seed/Asgrow rifles.  Mike

Avatar
steve004
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 5161
Member Since:
November 19, 2006
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
7
April 19, 2020 - 4:20 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print

I surely learn something new every time I come here.

Never heard of a Dekalb Seed Limited Edition.  But sure enough, they’re out there:

https://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-for-sale-online/rifles/winchester-commemorative-firearms/winchester-model-94—dekalb-seed-special-edition—-30-30.cfm?gun_id=100933986

Here’s the Coca Cola version.  I’ll say this about it: it’s shiny.

https://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-for-sale-online/rifles/winchester-collectible-firearms/winchester-coca-cola-centennial-set.cfm?gun_id=100983157

Notice, the Coca Cola version is part of a set – with a M1500 XTR shotgun.  

Avatar
28 gauge
Member
WACA Guest
Forum Posts: 887
Member Since:
March 23, 2010
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
8
April 19, 2020 - 4:57 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print

steve004 said
I surely learn something new every time I come here.

Never heard of a Dekalb Seed Limited Edition.  But sure enough, they’re out there:

https://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-for-sale-online/rifles/winchester-commemorative-firearms/winchester-model-94—dekalb-seed-special-edition—-30-30.cfm?gun_id=100933986

Here’s the Coca Cola version.  I’ll say this about it: it’s shiny.

https://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-for-sale-online/rifles/winchester-collectible-firearms/winchester-coca-cola-centennial-set.cfm?gun_id=100983157

Notice, the Coca Cola version is part of a set – with a M1500 XTR shotgun.    

 Interesting.Both rifles seem to have very nice finish on the wood and nice bluing.

Avatar
28 gauge
Member
WACA Guest
Forum Posts: 887
Member Since:
March 23, 2010
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
9
April 19, 2020 - 5:02 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print

 So it would appear ,these rifles were ordered from Winchester and the finish work all done by Winchester at the factory,as opposed to ordering the rifles and having some one other than Winchester ,do the finish work.Am I correct on that?

Avatar
steve004
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 5161
Member Since:
November 19, 2006
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
10
April 19, 2020 - 5:16 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print

28 gauge said

 Interesting.Both rifles seem to have very nice finish on the wood and nice bluing.  

I find myself agreeing with you.  I particularly like the wood and checkering on the Coca Cola rifle.  Substract the Coca Cola treatments and that would be a pretty nice looking rifle.

Avatar
Henry Mero
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 1382
Member Since:
December 21, 2006
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
11
April 19, 2020 - 8:08 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_EditHistory

Yup Made at Winchester. 1986 to mark Coca-Cola’s 100 anniversary. And similarly, there is a Dodge Marksman for sale right now on Gunbroker. They were given away by Dodge with the purchase of a new Ramcharger. Ford and Chevy did similar, I find it  interesting as to how society’s values change, the Coca-Cola guns being a prime example. Can You imagine a Staunch Democrat buying a new Ram, getting home and finding a new Winchester hanging in the back window. I was told That is kind of what happened at Coca-Cola,  and the new board of directors were horrified at the prospect of their condoning guns.

W.A.C.A. life member, Marlin Collectors Assn. charter and life member, C,S.S.A. member and general gun nut.

Forum Timezone: UTC 0
Most Users Ever Online: 4623
Currently Online: 1ned1, 426crown, Anthony
Guest(s) 66
Currently Browsing this Page:
1 Guest(s)
Top Posters:
clarence: 7119
TXGunNut: 6400
Chuck: 5800
steve004: 5161
1873man: 4693
deerhunter: 2692
Big Larry: 2546
twobit: 2491
mrcvs: 2190
Maverick: 2025
Newest Members:
Lambeau
Larsmack
usmc1978
Otisman68
Deaf Smith
Texasaggie19
Diego
Bkmkok
Leonardb
Skysquatch82
Forum Stats:
Groups: 1
Forums: 18
Topics: 14700
Posts: 131483

 

Member Stats:
Guest Posters: 2057
Members: 9973
Moderators: 3
Admins: 4
Administrators: Mike Hager, Bert H., JWA, SethJ
Moderators: Rob Kassab, Brad Dunbar, Heather
Navigation