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July 2, 2023
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Hi all — I’m assembling a registry of Canadian law-enforcement–associated Winchester Model 1894 (.30-30) carbines (20″ SRCs) and I need your help.
WACA collectors in Canada have long come across municipal and agency examples — City of Toronto, Barrie, Calgary, various Railway Police — but the documentation is scattered or unpublished.
On the contrary, U.S. LE Winchesters (LAPD, San Antonio, etc.) are well-catalogued; our Canadian examples need the same kind of provenance and photographic record.
What I’m looking for (anyone can help):
• Photos of carbines with any Canadian police/agency markings, rack numbers, unusual stamps, or proven provenance.
• Documentation — Canadian procurement records, inventory lists, letters, memos, or archival scans.
• Oral histories — Canadian accounts from retired officers or armoury staff who recall storage, issue, or use of these guns.
• Accessories — marked ammo boxes, racks, sling tags, inspection cards, paperwork, or holster/locker photos that link a rifle to an agency.
For example:
The best inference about City of Toronto SRCs is that they were centrally stored (Toronto Police armoury or City property depot) and loaned out for emergencies, civic wartime drills, and possibly jail/transfer duty (Don Jail). Many of these guns are unmarked for a specific jail or agency, suggesting cross-agency use — but that’s still speculation without primary sources (photos, invoices, procurement docs, letters). Some have been observed with rack numbers, others have not.
Bert Hartman has a survey on these Winchester “City of Toronto” SRC’s
July 2, 2023
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Jeremy Scott, a prominent and well-known WACA collector here in Canada, confirmed that he once owned and collected the following firearms many years ago:
City of Toronto ( Already known and recognized to collectors)
*Opp
*Railway police
*Barrie
*Calgary
These rifles are out there somewhere! More information to be updated as it comes…
July 2, 2023
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Harry Mero, another prominent and well known WACA collector here in Ontario, Canada also recalls having an OPP marked Winchester 1894 30-30, (possibly acquiring it at the Orangeville gun show in Ontario) in his collection many years ago.
July 14, 2016
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I have a PCMR carbine that may be of interest to you. It features in our collector magazine Summer 2024.
The serial number is 1337574. It does have an unusual stamp on the butt plate that we have not deciphered as yet.
Chris
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July 2, 2023
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Chris D said
I have a PCMR carbine that may be of interest to you. It features in our collector magazine Summer 2024.
The serial number is 1337574. It does have an unusual stamp on the butt plate that we have not deciphered as yet.
Chris
Hi Chris,
Thank you for your post.
I have not encountered this particular marking on any of the PCMR’s I have owed over the years.
It appears to read “HMca”.
It is common knowledge that many PCMR’s did get expropriated for other use by agencies like the BC police, park wardens/ rangers etc after WW2.
Bert Hartman is your best bet.
I will ask around and see as well.
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