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November 19, 2006
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And take down as well. And a deluxe. I’m not going to comment on what can be believed here, but I am intrigued. Is there any truth to the assertion that there were 45 of these special ordered? If it is true, it sure not anything I have heard of. But also, I learn something new every day as well.
November 11, 2012
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https://www.gunbroker.com/item/860826750 Funny how that one missed the boat to India. Totally redone or totally faked. Scroll to the bottom and look at his other rarities. Reminds me of “Selling Grandad’s Old Guns.”
This is original.
https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail/69/1069/winchester-model-1895-takedown-lever-action-rifle
September 11, 2008
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Thank you for the link to GB. This is the fourth “Rutlam” I know.
– one at https://archives.collectorsfirearms.com/?category=943&subcategory=1130&category=&product=w2835 (SN ???, RackNo ??),
– one from your link at RIA and Brads 1895 book (SN 409374, RackNo 14),
– one in my possession (SN 409376, RackNo 20)
– and the redone one on Gunbroker (SN ???, RackNo 9).
Steff
April 15, 2005
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Old-Win said
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/860826750 Funny how that one missed the boat to India. Totally redone or totally faked. Scroll to the bottom and look at his other rarities. Reminds me of “Selling Grandad’s Old Guns.”
“Winchester Guns” is the new name that “Selling Dads Old Guns” is now using.
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November 19, 2006
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I am familiar with the seller – which is why I am stunned the original box is not included with this piece.
I am fascinated to learn that the Calcutta .405’s are not pure fantasy. Has anyone heard of any (original specimens) that had a saddle ring fitted?
Any basis in the seller’s claim that 45 were originally ordered?
December 21, 2006
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The Man is obviously a G damn liar so why would You put any credence in any thing he says in his ads
W.A.C.A. life member, Marlin Collectors Assn. charter and life member, C,S.S.A. member and general gun nut.
September 11, 2008
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I have never seen one with a saddle ring and don’t think that it is original. For me the gun have new stocks, new finish and the additional saddle ring.
What all nown examples have is the four leaf rear sight and blind holes in the front, under section of the barrel, for a bayonet mount.
Steff
November 11, 2012
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Bert H. said
Old-Win said
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/860826750 Funny how that one missed the boat to India. Totally redone or totally faked. Scroll to the bottom and look at his other rarities. Reminds me of “Selling Grandad’s Old Guns.”
“Winchester Guns” is the new name that “Selling Dads Old Guns” is now using.
Wow, all those sales and happy customers after that name change. Hard to believe that nobody has caught on.
November 19, 2006
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Henry Mero said
The Man is obviously a G damn liar so why would You put any credence in any thing he says in his ads
Henry –
I thought there was a chance that a shred of what he presented was true. And as it turns out, the Calcutta guns are a real thing. I enjoyed reading about them and the links to actual specimens as I had never known they existed. Now, had the real specimens been .405 take-down .405 SRC’s… that would have really been something!
November 2, 2009
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Well, first of all, it’s NOT a saddle ring carbine. Real or fake, it’s a RIFLE with a saddle ring. Rare by not unusual feature in many lever action models.
April 15, 2005
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Old-Win said
Wow, all those sales and happy customers after that name change. Hard to believe that nobody has caught on.
The number of sales carries over from his previous nom de plumes. GB allows a user name change, but retains the previous feedback and sales data.
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April 15, 2005
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steve004 said
Henry –
I thought there was a chance that a shred of what he presented was true. And as it turns out, the Calcutta guns are a real thing. I enjoyed reading about them and the links to actual specimens as I had never known they existed. Now, had the real specimens been .405 take-down .405 SRC’s… that would have really been something!
Steve,
With that seller, it is wise and a safe bet to assume that very little of what he has written in his ads is accurate.
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November 19, 2006
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I agree with what is being said. Still, it led me to see some real specimens of Calcutta rifles which I had never known about. I certainly wouldn’t defend this seller in any way and his crafty word smithing makes me feel ill.
September 11, 2008
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I just found an interesting, contemporary report of a 1924 tiger hunt that also used Winchester caliber 405 rifles.
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/news/2014/8/140803-tiger-hunt-1924-india-maharaja-safari/
March 31, 2009
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steff said
I just found an interesting, contemporary report of a 1924 tiger hunt that also used Winchester caliber 405 rifles.https://www.nationalgeographic.com/news/2014/8/140803-tiger-hunt-1924-india-maharaja-safari/
I opened this site and got so much junk, then it wanted me to enter stuff and it locked up. Tried it the second time and the same BS.
May 26, 2017
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I was able to see the picture, and read two sentences and it won’t let me go any further without setting up an account, however just getting to see that tiger and 1895 was cool, but that guys hat steals the show for me
September 11, 2008
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Too bad the page doesn’t work for you. Here is a link to a picture for comfort:
https://pictures.abebooks.com/BATESANDHINDMARCH/13441603525_2.jpg
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/content/dam/news/photos/000/823/82330.jpg
And two more pictures of the last (!) tiger in Singapore, shot at Oct. 24. 1930 with an 1895 carbine:
https://www.blogpastor.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/06052010619.jpg
https://lampinfoo.files.wordpress.com/2017/02/20170228_001_001.jpg
Stefan
