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bluing and 1866 (separate questions)
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     In the late 1800’s, was Winchester bluing glossy/shiny or more of a satin-like appearance ?

     Did the factory chamber any 66’s in .44WCF ?     Has anyone seen any that were later converted, either by the factory or privately ?

     Just more idle curiosity on the second subject.

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Satin.

No. The factory center fire Model 1866s were chambered for a center fire version of the 44 Henry rim fire.

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      Thanks, Bert.       I was wondering about the old original bluing because the only old rifles I’ve ever seen (at gun shows) were just that, old guns that had experienced a hundred years or more of use.     Also, some modern replicas are glossy and some are satin, so I wasn’t sure.

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mustang said
     In the late 1800’s, was Winchester bluing glossy/shiny or more of a satin-like appearance ?

     Did the factory chamber any 66’s in .44WCF ?     Has anyone seen any that were later converted, either by the factory or privately ?

     Just more idle curiosity on the second subject.  

I have a 66 carbine that was converted to Center Fire.  Just paid $120 for an original Henry 44 Center Fire Cartridge! Only one I have ever seen….

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There was an order from Brazil for 1000 model 1866 carbines in 44 center fire caliber.The cartridge was about identical to 44S&W American.This was the very end of production for the 1866.

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Thanks for asking, Mustang. I was a little foggy on the center fire question and thanks to your thread I’m a bit clearer now.

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You can not convert an original 1866 to .44 WCF, period.  The internals and dimensions of an 1866 receiver are not long enough to accept the .44 WCF cartridge.

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You could but it would be a single shot gun.

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Yah, like that would be a worthwhile endeavor. 

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win4575 said
You can not convert an original 1866 to .44 WCF, period.  The internals and dimensions of an 1866 receiver are not long enough to accept the .44 WCF cartridge.  

    Thanks for the information.     I was curious about this because there are modern reproductions of the 1866 available in .44WCF.

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