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I know the Big Bore Model 94 rifles are of newer manufacture,but I do seem to notice some collector interest in them of late years.For my self, I consider only the Model 94 rifles with the beefed up side plates to be included in the BB category .Even though, the Model 94 44 magnum,44-40,450 Marlin and 444 Marlin chambered Model 94 rifles have bigger bores,I do not consider them in the Big Bore class of the .307,356 and 375 guns.Mainly because of the beefed up side plates and the 375 rifles being introduced in 1978 as the Big Bore Model 94.
All these are interesting calibres.Any one have interest in these BB rifles?If so what are there thoughts on them?I believe the .307 was the most popular, with the 375 second and the .356 least popular.
Some nice variations available, to any one who wanted to put together a nice collection of them.
It’s what started me on the Winchesters… Never mind the extra rear sight- it was Lagniappe.
I started with the .307, .356, and .375. Later I picked up the 7-30 Waters and 44Mag (no safety). Kind of a gateway…. then I read and learned.
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From what I understand some BB rifles had no cross bolt safeties while others did .I believe some of the early .375 rifles had top ejection rather than angle ejection.The 307 and 356 all came with angle eject ,as far as I know.
Some of the 307,375 and 356 rifles came with a traditional stock,while others had a monte carlo stock.Usually referred to on these rifles as a,” canoe paddle “stock.
Nice looking rifles you have ,rwsem.Do you shoot them in the field or at the range?
28 gauge said
From what I understand some BB rifles had no cross bolt safeties while others did .I believe some of the early .375 rifles had top ejection rather than angle ejection.The 307 and 356 all came with angle eject ,as far as I know.Some of the 307,375 and 356 rifles came with a traditional stock,while others had a monte carlo stock.Usually referred to on these rifles as a,” canoe paddle “stock.
Nice looking rifles you have ,rwsem.Do you shoot them in the field or at the range?
I have owned a couple top eject .375’s. No cross bolt safety. Also have had a couple Marlins in that caliber. Savage chambered the 99 in .375 for a short time. I saw one in a shop in Anchorage with a 3×9 Leupold on it. The price was right and I should have swooped it up on the spot. Drug my feet and went back later in the day and it was gone.
Shoot low boys. They're riding Shetland Ponies.
I shoot everything I own but haven’t shot the BBs in a while. Recently, I’ve been wringing out an early 44 Magnum- also without the safety. I need to start working on finding out what the 7-30 Waters likes too. Man am I behind….
Technically, the glass is always full; half liquid, half air....
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First of all, I’m something of a ‘collector for all seasons’, enjoying a variety of long guns and more interest-limited species of handgun. What brought me to Winchester particularly, the pre 64 genre Model 70 as a ‘best of breed’ and the lever guns, as romantic genre-central of ‘moving West’ classic rifles. As that category meeting ‘new & improved’ modernity in manufacturing process/materials, keeping pace with modern chamber pressures, etc., ‘origins’ lost! The copies, as quite nice copies of the older guns exuding traditional styling, yet within my perspective as a practical form of flattery! Beyond… different. Were I a hunter, likely not to prefer a lever anyway. The new models “also ran” in context of yet characterization, “classic” as perversion.
Visibly beefed up actions, angle eject, external safety mechanisms added… Yielding all-round condemnation with appreciation to others’ desires & needs’. Simply ‘not for me’. The Marlin, similar. Affection for the 336 and big bore chamberings, managed within “traditional” lever styling. Postwar lineage clear, yet such itself “classic” genre to eighties era. Collecting both makers. Marlin more specimens as distinctly same quality, lower price! As far as preference between such two classic genre, for me as blue eyed blondes and dark eyed brunettes; equally seduction capable. Happily “gun polygamy”, yet legal… SO FAR! 🙂
Best to all and God protect in this crisis!
John
modernity…. Had to look that one up. Interesting Google definition.
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Old Logger said
I have owned a couple top eject .375’s. No cross bolt safety. Also have had a couple Marlins in that caliber. Savage chambered the 99 in .375 for a short time. I saw one in a shop in Anchorage with a 3×9 Leupold on it. The price was right and I should have swooped it up on the spot. Drug my feet and went back later in the day and it was gone.
I knew Marlin made a .375 Winchester,but did not know that Savage made one.I wonder if either company made rifles in .307 or .356 Winchester?
rwsem said
I shoot everything I own but haven’t shot the BBs in a while. Recently, I’ve been wringing out an early 44 Magnum- also without the safety. I need to start working on finding out what the 7-30 Waters likes too. Man am I behind….
Be sure to let us know your thoughts on the cartridges once you get some shooting done.In the past I had a Model 94 in .44 Magnum.Did not use it much,probably only fired a few shots out of it at best.Bought it new and when I sold it it was in like new condition.
Iskra; I have to tell You That I pretty much need a translator to understand Your posts. Now saying that I have to admit I do not possess an advanced education of the English language, and although being Canadian I pretty much speak and understand basic American/Canadian redneck, right from “Ya’ll to ‘Yuper to Canadian ‘eh. Not meaning to be rude or offensive, just a little jest at Your expense.
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I’ll add that for all it’s detractions a certain Big Bore .375 was my first Winchester lever gun, bought new almost 40 years ago. I still have it, pretty sure it’s my only post-64 Winchester lever gun. I’m a fan of the cartridge but nowadays I prefer it’s predecessor, the 38-55 WCF. It’s a very attractive and well-made rifle and it’s one of the reasons I collect Winchesters today. I’m seeing some collector interest in it these days but since I added sling swivels many moons ago mine will always be a shooter, and a pretty good shooter at that.
Mike
Henry Mero said
Iskra; I have to tell You That I pretty much need a translator to understand Your posts. Now saying that I have to admit I do not possess an advanced education of the English language, and although being Canadian I pretty much speak and understand basic American/Canadian redneck, right from “Ya’ll to ‘Yuper to Canadian ‘eh. Not meaning to be rude or offensive, just a little jest at Your expense.
To admit that your’re 100% right on! When I’m’ tired, tending to just bang ‘stuff’ out without/inadequate proofing or edit. Have to stop doing that, amounting about to obtuse and distracting from my point.
To apologize, now for the second distinct instance of such. Fortunately not responsible for nuclear safety directions! But possibly a candidate for Political office, or speech writer!
Again thanks as extending embarrassing apologies to all. I value this great Forum and participation. Hope to be more of an asset than ‘half-vast’ commentator!
God Bless and please all take care in this other-world great pandemic.
Best!
John
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W.A.C.A. life member, Marlin Collectors Assn. charter and life member, C,S.S.A. member and general gun nut.
i had two 94 ae- push saftey winchester ported timber carbines in .444 marlin, both had reinforced (beefed up side plates) rear recievers. i sold one ANIB for 800.00 several years ago. i don,t know the years they were made, but the serial number on the one i still have is 64224xx.
You are right eastbank ,about the Model 94 444 Marlin having the beefed up side plates.For some reason when I wrote the first post, I was thinking the 444 did not have them
,same as the 450 does not have them.My mistake on the 444, thank-you for pointing out the truth .
no problem, i thought i now owned a rare carbine.
I can never find a 45 or 444 that doesn’t have a safety. I think they came along too late.
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steve004 said
Don’t forget the .45 Colt. I actually had one (angle eject).
Do not remember the .45 Colt.Was it a U.S. made rifle or a Japanese made rifle?
28 gauge said
steve004 said
Don’t forget the .45 Colt. I actually had one (angle eject).Do not remember the .45 Colt.Was it a U.S. made rifle or a Japanese made rifle?
Mine was U.S. made rifle. I will admit I am more warmed up to these post-64 rifles than had been my history. By the way, mine was a rifle and not a carbine. 24″ barrel if I recall correctly.
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