Avatar
Search
Forum Scope




Match



Forum Options



Minimum search word length is 3 characters - maximum search word length is 84 characters
Lost password?
sp_Feed sp_PrintTopic sp_TopicIcon
Beautiful M1873 sold low - is the round barrel the main factor?
Avatar
steve004
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 5323
Member Since:
November 19, 2006
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
1
May 11, 2019 - 1:29 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_EditHistory

Here is one that sold at Rock Island last weekend.  I had been drooling over this rifle.  What a fantastic piece!  Auction estimate was $85,000 – $120,000.  It sold for $69,000.  I was pondering why it went low.  What are the thoughts?  Was the auction estimate unrealistic?  Soft market explains it all?  Or, was it that it was not an octagon barrel?  I have always collected what I like.  The fact that other collectors seem to prefer octagon barrels doesn’t make me not like round barrel rifles.  How many of you would steer away from this rifle because it has a round barrel?  How much value would you add were it an octagon barrel version?

https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail/76/64/winchester-deluxe-second-model-1873-rifle-with-letter

Avatar
twobit
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 2561
Member Since:
March 20, 2009
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
2
May 11, 2019 - 1:36 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print

Steve,

Please edit to the correct link to the RIA rifle.

Michael

Signature-Pic.jpg

 

Model 1892 / Model 61 Collector, Research, Valuation

Avatar
1873man
Wisconsin
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 4775
Member Since:
May 2, 2009
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
3
May 11, 2019 - 2:17 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_EditHistory

That was too much money for a gun with just nice case and wood but yes the round barrel does hurt it. I’m really surprised it when for that much. The second model aspect pushed it some.

https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail/76/64/winchester-deluxe-second-model-1873-rifle-with-letter

Bob

WACA Life Member---
NRA Life Member----
Cody Firearms member since 1991
Researching the Winchester 1873's

73_86cutaway.jpg

Email: [email protected]

Avatar
TR
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 1921
Member Since:
June 4, 2017
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
4
May 11, 2019 - 3:55 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print

 Steve, That auction did not give Winchesters a strong showing in general. I think Rock Island over estimated the value of that gun, they can’t always be right. A round barrel was not as desirable as octagon when they were new and today collectors think the same way.T/R

Avatar
steve004
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 5323
Member Since:
November 19, 2006
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
5
May 11, 2019 - 4:14 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print

TR – thanks for the reply.  By the way, I had missed the Rock Island thread – I did not see it until this morning.  But I appreciate all the discussion and comments. 

Avatar
Huck Riley
Member
WACA Guest
Forum Posts: 491
Member Since:
January 19, 2017
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
6
May 11, 2019 - 4:19 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print

TR said
  A round barrel was not as desirable as octagon when they were new and today collectors think the same way.T/R  

I used to think the attraction to Winchester lever guns was based on growing up with T.V. westerns and western movies.  But when I think about it, most of the shows and movies I watched had round barrels and were carbines.  So, when I hear people back in the day felt like I do now, it makes me think it is purely an aesthetic thing.  To each his own, of course, but but a classic OBFMCB is a work of art.  They just look good and that’s all there is to it, as far as I’m concerned.  Hollywood aside, I think most small town museums I’ve been in have more of the OBFMCB rifles.

For the life of me, I can’t figure how future generations are ever going to sit back and admire black plastic assault rifles as a piece of art.  Not my problem, I guess.

  

Forum Timezone: UTC 0
Most Users Ever Online: 5406
Currently Online: freebird1968
Guest(s) 450
Currently Browsing this Page:
1 Guest(s)
Top Posters:
clarence: 7119
TXGunNut: 6766
Chuck: 6107
steve004: 5323
1873man: 4775
deerhunter: 2782
Big Larry: 2578
twobit: 2561
mrcvs: 2285
Maverick: 2080
Newest Members:
Morg1960
Centennialrifle
fordwannabe
Chip
Bowhunter1965
wjs_vienna
Mountain guy
jk3hunter
TheFultz
Longboard
Forum Stats:
Groups: 1
Forums: 18
Topics: 15161
Posts: 136425

 

Member Stats:
Guest Posters: 2057
Members: 10268
Moderators: 3
Admins: 4
Administrators: Mike Hager, Bert H., JWA, SethJ
Moderators: Rob Kassab, Brad Dunbar, Heather
Navigation