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Are these model 64s original?
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Saw these firearms on the Poulin auction site.  Seeking forum opinions. 

20” version in 38-55

https://bid.poulinauctions.com/item.aspx?i=59096736

20” in 32-40

https://bid.poulinauctions.com/item.aspx?i=59096738

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What are the serial numbers on those 20-inch Rifles?

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Bert H. said
What are the serial numbers on those 20-inch Rifles?
  

That’s a good question. When I was initially viewing them it had a decent item description with serial numbers and condition. Now when I click on the link it just shows the lot number with a few photos. I tried to navigate back to the former without success. 

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At this point, I see nothing about either of them that alarms me, but when the caliber is taken into consideration, that in of itself is cause for a much closer examination.  What I will say at this point, is that both of them need to be pre-1938 production rifles.  Winchester discontinued the 32-40 and 38-55 as of January 1938.

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Cal. 38-55. S#. 1107691. Bbl. 20″ round. Hooded ramp bead front with sporting rear sight. 2/3 length mag. Blue finish. Semi beavertail forend & pistol grip walnut stock with checkered steel buttplate. S#. indicates 1927 mfg. CONDITION: over 90% original blue shows spots flaking to brown. Very good original wood finish shows scattered light marks. Bright near excellent bore. (25-1385/DS). CURIO. $2,000-3,000.

 

Cal. 32-40. S# 1116955. Mfg. 1936, Bbl. 20″ hooded bead front sight on a short stippled ramp. Elevator adjustable sporting rear sight. Plain trigger. “L533” on the lower tang. Smooth pistol grip walnut stock set with “C203” found in the top tang channel and a checkered steel butt plate. CONDITION: overall good with lightly thinning bbl finish that remains with 80-85% coverage that has spotty freckled oxidation moderately covering the length of the bbl. Receiver has light carry wear with 90% of its original finish. Stock has scattered handling marks and dents with light scratches. Very nice bright bore with sharp rifling. (25-1389/ZAL). CURIO. $1,000-1,500.

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Steven Gabrielli said
Cal. 38-55. S#. 1107691. Bbl. 20″ round. Hooded ramp bead front with sporting rear sight. 2/3 length mag. Blue finish. Semi beavertail forend & pistol grip walnut stock with checkered steel buttplate. S#. indicates 1927 mfg. CONDITION: over 90% original blue shows spots flaking to brown. Very good original wood finish shows scattered light marks. Bright near excellent bore. (25-1385/DS). CURIO. $2,000-3,000.
 
Cal. 32-40. S# 1116955. Mfg. 1936, Bbl. 20″ hooded bead front sight on a short stippled ramp. Elevator adjustable sporting rear sight. Plain trigger. “L533” on the lower tang. Smooth pistol grip walnut stock set with “C203” found in the top tang channel and a checkered steel butt plate. CONDITION: overall good with lightly thinning bbl finish that remains with 80-85% coverage that has spotty freckled oxidation moderately covering the length of the bbl. Receiver has light carry wear with 90% of its original finish. Stock has scattered handling marks and dents with light scratches. Very nice bright bore with sharp rifling. (25-1389/ZAL). CURIO. $1,000-1,500.
  

My opinion if these rifles are original they are extremely undervalued. It appears most on auction I would be interested in are also undervalued. I suspect it is to create bidding actvity. I always wish they would provide more photos.

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Steven Gabrielli said
Cal. 38-55. S#. 1107691. Bbl. 20″ round. Hooded ramp bead front with sporting rear sight. 2/3 length mag. Blue finish. Semi beavertail forend & pistol grip walnut stock with checkered steel buttplate. S#. indicates 1927 mfg. CONDITION: over 90% original blue shows spots flaking to brown. Very good original wood finish shows scattered light marks. Bright near excellent bore. (25-1385/DS). CURIO. $2,000-3,000.
 
Cal. 32-40. S# 1116955. Mfg. 1936, Bbl. 20″ hooded bead front sight on a short stippled ramp. Elevator adjustable sporting rear sight. Plain trigger. “L533” on the lower tang. Smooth pistol grip walnut stock set with “C203” found in the top tang channel and a checkered steel butt plate. CONDITION: overall good with lightly thinning bbl finish that remains with 80-85% coverage that has spotty freckled oxidation moderately covering the length of the bbl. Receiver has light carry wear with 90% of its original finish. Stock has scattered handling marks and dents with light scratches. Very nice bright bore with sharp rifling. (25-1389/ZAL). CURIO. $1,000-1,500.
  

S/N 1107691 – May 1936

S/N 1116955 – October 1936

I have both of them documented in the survey, and with no negative issues noted.  Pending an “in hand” inspection, both of those “rare” Model 64 20-inch rifles appear to be legit.

And Yes, the value estimates are way too low for them.

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