Avatar
Search
Forum Scope




Match



Forum Options



Minimum search word length is 3 characters - maximum search word length is 84 characters
Lost password?
sp_Feed sp_PrintTopic sp_TopicIcon
Any idea the ballpark value of a recently acquired Winchester Model 1895 with low serial?
sp_NewTopic Add Topic
Avatar
Member
WACA Guest
Forum Posts: 5
Member Since:
May 1, 2020
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
1
May 1, 2020 - 11:33 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_QuotePost

I hope this isn’t against any rules but hoping to determine a ballpark value to a Winchester Model 1895 that I recently acquired via an inheritance. It is a beautiful gun with a bit of wear and tear but from a little research i have done the serial number seems to be relatively low at ‘2792’. Any thoughts would be appreciated.

I would happily post some pics… but cant seem to figure out how.

 

Thanks in advance.

Avatar
Kingston, WA
Admin
Forum Posts: 12533
Member Since:
April 15, 2005
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
2
May 1, 2020 - 11:50 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_QuotePost

You will need to put your pictures on a photo hosting website, then provide the URL (link) to them.  Which cartridge is it chambered for?  

Bert

WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
High-walls-1-002-C-reduced2.jpg

Avatar
Member
WACA Guest
Forum Posts: 5
Member Since:
May 1, 2020
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
3
May 2, 2020 - 1:47 am
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_QuotePost

Thank you Bert… i will do that soon. It is chambered in 30 US

Avatar
Member
WACA Guest
Forum Posts: 5
Member Since:
May 1, 2020
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
4
May 2, 2020 - 2:04 am
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_QuotePost

hummmm… tried to upload to IMGBB and attempted to click the add or edit image button but it doesnt seem to post. Sorry for this… new to forums.

Do i enter the viewer links? Html links? or BBcodes? … Maybe I can just post the links here like this…

https://ibb.co/YLH5bmF
https://ibb.co/1LvpYLZ
https://ibb.co/wWkQCmD
https://ibb.co/DbGm8bd
https://ibb.co/rFScjV8
https://ibb.co/SvB4F7Q

 

Again…. sorry for not knowing.

Avatar
Kingston, WA
Admin
Forum Posts: 12533
Member Since:
April 15, 2005
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
5
May 2, 2020 - 2:13 am
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_QuotePost

It appears that you got it figured out.

The pictures show a standard Model 1895 Sporting Rifle, in honest used condition. The overall graded condition is what I refer to as “Serviceable”, and the value of the rifle is somewhat dependent on the condition of the bore and how well the rifle shoots. That stated, the low end of the value range is approximately $750.

Bert

WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
High-walls-1-002-C-reduced2.jpg

Avatar
Member
WACA Guest
Forum Posts: 5
Member Since:
May 1, 2020
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
6
May 2, 2020 - 2:19 am
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_QuotePost

Thank you very much for your time and prompt replies. I honestly thought with a serial that low it would be at least twice that but it is good to know… it is a great gun and even though i am not a collector, i think that I will happily keep it!

Thanks again Bert!

Avatar
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 2120
Member Since:
September 22, 2011
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
7
May 2, 2020 - 2:56 am
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_QuotePost

[email protected] said
I honestly thought with a serial that low it would be at least twice that…

Here’s how it works with low serial numbees provided condition is not extremely poor.

Serial number 1:  MANY times the value of other serial numbers, even if the condition is poor.  Basically, whatever market conditions will bear.

Other one digit serial numbers:  Can be triple that of a similar less remarkable example.

Two digit numbers approximately 50% more to double of less remarkable examples.

Three digit numbers perhaps some enhanced value.

Four digits are neat and a conversation piece.

This is VERY general and varies greatly by make and model and rare variation.  For example, early Colt Single Action Army “pinch frame” revolvers worth MANY MANY times that of the standard variation.  Also, later guns such as the Model 65 were serialized with the Model 1892 and early production would be an unremarkable 7 digit number.

Avatar
South Texas
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 1093
Member Since:
March 20, 2010
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
8
May 2, 2020 - 7:15 am
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_QuotePost

It may be the perspective of the photos, but how long is the barrel on that rifle (muzzle to chamber end)?

DSC_0245-Copy-3.JPG

1892takedown @sbcglobal.net ......NRA Endowment Life Member.....WACA Member

"God is great.....beer is good.....and people are crazy"... Billy Currington

Avatar
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 5017
Member Since:
November 19, 2006
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
9
May 2, 2020 - 12:37 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_QuotePost

I feel safe in saying that for 99.9% of the guys that hang around here (including me), if they inherited that rifle, they would be keeping it. Very happily (and horrified at even the thought of parting with it).  It seems a very decent rifle just showing mellow use.  Do you know the history of it?  How long did your relative have it?  What did he hunt with it?  That rifle clearly has some stories to tell.  

Your rifle has several things going for it.  It appears all original condition.  It was made in 1897 so it has survived 123 years without being molested.  There are a ton of Winchesters out there that can’t make this claim.  It is the first variation of the M1895 – known as the, “flat side.”  Manufactured in 1897, it has, “antique” (legal) status, which is a strong plus.  I would say your rifle is a collector item.  It is not in, “collectible condition” in that most of the finish is gone, however it is in, “collectible condition” in the sense that is in original condition (i.e. from what I can tell from the photos – I have not held it in my hands).  I will also point out that many buyers or Winchester rifles have an appreciation for the authenticity that comes with mellow use.  Your rifle has some great character and that carries appeal to many (e.g. me).  The other comment I will make is that the Model 1895 is not as popular among collectors as other lever action models (such as the M1866, 1873, 1876, 1886, 1892 and 1894).  It just doesn’t have as large of a following as the other models I mentioned.  This is not to say it has no followers.  There are a very large number of Winchester collectors extant.

Value (e.g. what someone else is willing to pay) varies wildly of late.  Gun shows tend to be slower the last few years and values are more suppressed.  Your rifle does not have the condition to draw most serious collectors.  This is mainly because they have a nicer one sitting at home.  Your rifle is more what we refer to as an, “entry” level collector rifle.  The only glitch with that is there aren’t as many entry level collectors these days.  The other place a lot of guns sell is internet auctions.  What a rifle will bring in an internet auction (e.g. such as gunbroker) is much more unpredictable.  If this rifle were started at a penny on gunbroker, with no reserve, with inspection privileges and from a seller who was established (e.g. not a brand new seller with no feedback) it would not surprise me in the least to see it go somewhere between $1500 and $2500.  

In conclusion, hang on to that wonderful family heirloom!

Avatar
Member
WACA Guest
Forum Posts: 202
Member Since:
January 20, 2015
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
10
May 2, 2020 - 3:17 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_QuotePost

Steve’s value range is in keeping with what I’ve experienced lately. 

Avatar
Member
WACA Guest
Forum Posts: 5
Member Since:
May 1, 2020
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
11
May 2, 2020 - 4:58 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_QuotePost

in regards to the question of barrel length… i believe it is 27.25 inches if i measured correctly.

 

… and regarding Steve004’s reply… thank you. I appreciate you taking the time to write that and explain so much and it makes so much sense. I unfortunately know nothing of its history, nor do I know how long my uncle had possessed it. I personally love the ‘used’ look and already have thought about the history of it. Where it has been in the last one and a quarter century, thinking about its proud owner holding it for the first time a couple decades before Wright brothers first flight… Alotta’ history there.

It wasnt a hard sell but I think you have all convinced me to keep it. No kids here so when I go… maybe I can pass it on to a distant relative who can imagine all the places its been.

Thanks again everyone.

J

Avatar
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 5592
Member Since:
March 31, 2009
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
12
May 2, 2020 - 6:13 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_QuotePost

Have it checked out, get some 30-40 Krag ammo and shoot it.  Never sell a family gun.

Avatar
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 5017
Member Since:
November 19, 2006
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
13
May 2, 2020 - 6:28 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_QuotePost

Chuck said
Have it checked out, get some 30-40 Krag ammo and shoot it.  Never sell a family gun.  

And from there, take it hunting!  🙂

Avatar
RickC
Guest
WACA Guest
14
May 2, 2020 - 7:40 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_QuotePost

Bert H. said
It appears that you got it figured out.
The pictures show a standard Model 1895 Sporting Rifle, in honest used condition. The overall graded condition is what I refer to as “Serviceable”, and the value of the rifle is somewhat dependent on the condition of the bore and how well the rifle shoots. That stated, the low end of the value range is approximately $750.
Bert  

I agree with Bert on condition & price but it’s worth what a buyer is willing to pay. I also agree with the others about keeping it but hey we’re not you. Good luck whatever you decide.

AG

Forum Timezone: UTC 0
Most Users Ever Online: 4623
Currently Online:
Guest(s) 158
Currently Browsing this Page:
1 Guest(s)
Top Posters:
clarence: 7119
TXGunNut: 6137
Chuck: 5592
steve004: 5017
1873man: 4652
Big Larry: 2501
twobit: 2474
mrcvs: 2120
Maverick: 1922
Forum Stats:
Groups: 1
Forums: 18
Topics: 14393
Posts: 127950

 

Member Stats:
Guest Posters: 2017
Members: 9764
Moderators: 4
Admins: 3
Navigation