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March 20, 2009
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http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=505042708
This gun, SN 712489, was previously sold out of Florida in the past 4 months or so with an original round barrel and was 25-20 caliber.
Michael
Model 1892 / Model 61 Collector, Research, Valuation
December 28, 2009
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I emailed the seller for the full serial number. he doesn’t list it and hard to tell from pictures. see what happens
December 28, 2009
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he emailed back= Serial number Model 1892…712489.
March 20, 2009
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larryb said
he emailed back= Serial number Model 1892…712489.
That is the same number as the rifle when it was in 25-20 caliber. In addition, the disfigured small screw hole on the tang is identical.
Michael
Model 1892 / Model 61 Collector, Research, Valuation
July 19, 2013
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Michael,
From an educational point of view, the 32-20 barrel is a replacement barrel shipped out somewhere by Winchester and put on this rifle, or the replacement barrel came from another rifle, correct ?
Also, is the stock fit from sanding or is it from a completely different gun ?
Last, is the transition from octagon to round as it should look from the factory ?
Thanks for the help,
Bill
March 20, 2009
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Blueliner said
Michael,
From an educational point of view, the 32-20 barrel is a replacement barrel shipped out somewhere by Winchester and put on this rifle, or the replacement barrel came from another rifle, correct ?
Also, is the stock fit from sanding or is it from a completely different gun ?
Last, is the transition from octagon to round as it should look from the factory ?
Thanks for the help,
Bill
Hello Bill,
The replacement barrel is definitely a mail order replacement which somebody recently put on this gun. The stock is poor and the result of sanding but is not any different than from when the rifle was originally a 25-20 caliber. The transition and the barrel address location are correct.
Michael
Model 1892 / Model 61 Collector, Research, Valuation
March 20, 2010
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At least they put a replacement barrel on it so there’s no question regarding originality. 
Would probably make a good shooter for someone.
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April 23, 2012
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What is the forward ‘proof’ on the Oct. barrel ? A bad fake of the WP proof? It looks too big and incorrect , and Im not sure if it was ‘photo-shopped’ to be blurry ?
Phil
March 20, 2009
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Phil,
I think the W/P proof on the barrel is factory original. The proof mark is slightly larger than the one on the receiver but I have not measured the size of proof stamps throughout the run of production to identify how much the size of the die may have varied. With regard to the stamp area being “photo shopped” to look blurry in the receiver top image with the proof stamps ( Second image) on the left side it is clear that the focal point of the image is far to the right and everything at the proof stamp location is out of focus. And there is “no attempt” to alter the focus on the photo of the caliber stamp (bottom image).
Michael
Model 1892 / Model 61 Collector, Research, Valuation
December 1, 2012
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Take a look at the picture showing the magazine tube. That tube clearly was previously on a standard rifle – you can see the marking where the magazine ring used to be and the indentation for the magazine ring pin. The tube either came from a much longer barreled rifle with two rings or has been reversed and cut. Also, the screw on the front sight doesn’t look right.
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March 20, 2009
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Wincacher said
Take a look at the picture showing the magazine tube. That tube clearly was previously on a standard rifle – you can see the marking where the magazine ring used to be and the indentation for the magazine ring pin. The tube either came from a much longer barreled rifle with two rings or has been reversed and cut. Also, the screw on the front sight doesn’t look right.
Wincacher,
The magazine is the same as that which was on the rifle when it had the original 25-20 barrel on it. I have photos of the rifle as it was originally and the same bumps and marks are present on the magazine tube. Yes, the front sight set screw is not anywhere near being correct.
Michael
Model 1892 / Model 61 Collector, Research, Valuation
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