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January 6, 2021 - 2:28 am
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https://www.poulinauctions.com/extremely-rare-winchester-1892-deluxe-lever-action-rifle-with-cheekpiece-stock/

Anyone here get it?  Anyone know what it sold for?  I surely like the features. I don’t recall seeing one exactly like it before.

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Boy, that is one rare and beautiful ’92.  It has the appearance of having been in the back corner of a closet for the past 100 years.  I love guns like this. 

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January 6, 2021 - 3:28 pm
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$18,800.

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Wow, that is a beauty.

Regarding the description, it mentions “perch belly” configuration of the stock.   What does that mean?   Is that the slight upward curve of the lower portion of the stock, rather than being a straight line?

I call myself a collector as it sounds better than hoarder

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Bill Hockett said
Wow, that is a beauty.

Regarding the description, it mentions “perch belly” configuration of the stock.   What does that mean?   Is that the slight upward curve of the lower portion of the stock, rather than being a straight line?  

Yes. 
The Perch Belly stock is seen much more frequently on early Savage M1899 guns.

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nanzca said
$18,800.  

Thanks!  I think it was worth that.

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Yours Steve?

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RickC said
Yours Steve?  

I wish!

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steve004 said

Thanks!  I think it was worth that.  

Oh ok sorry Steve thought your reply meant you bought it. You were just thanking him for posting the price.
I wonder what Michael(twobit) thinks of this one and the price.

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Tedk said

Bill Hockett said
Wow, that is a beauty.

Regarding the description, it mentions “perch belly” configuration of the stock.   What does that mean?   Is that the slight upward curve of the lower portion of the stock, rather than being a straight line?  

Yes. 
The Perch Belly stock is seen much more frequently on early Savage M1899 guns.  

So can one presume that the perch belly stock was a special order item that will show up in the warehouse records?   

I call myself a collector as it sounds better than hoarder

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Bill Hockett said

So can one presume that the perch belly stock was a special order item that will show up in the warehouse records?     

I would say no.  However the factory ledger should make mention of the cheekpiece stock – as well as the checkering. 

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steve004 said

I would say no.  However the factory ledger should make mention of the cheekpiece stock.    

It does.  Everything letters.  Wish it were mine but too expensive for my pocketbook.

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IMHO that rifle, in its present configuration, could likely a one-off.  There is no way of knowing how many could have been made in the same configuration, but the presence of a cheekpiece or a matted barrel, or even the straight grip checked deluxe configuration are rare in their own right, especially in the 1892.   As ive found with just TD rifles, the addition a specific special order feature such as the addition of sling eyes, can bring a standard TD rifle (or even standard rifle) into a more rarer category–if you get my meaning.   

IMHO, the “perch belly” in the stock is more of a function of the addition of the cheekpiece or the position and angle of the buttplate (+ – drop) than anything else.  Whoever the craftsman was at Win who made this stock did so with more ascetically pleasing lines and curves than some of other cheekpiece stocks Ive seen on other Win model examples.       

As with any special order gun, especially one that exhibits combination of several exceptionally rare features, the hammer price is what it is, and at least in the bidders minds, worth every penny. 

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1892takedown said
IMHO that rifle, in its present configuration, could likely a one-off.  There is no way of knowing how many could have been made in the same configuration, but the presence of a cheekpiece or a matted barrel, or even the straight grip checked deluxe configuration are rare in their own right, especially in the 1892.   As ive found with just TD rifles, the addition a specific special order feature such as the addition of sling eyes, can bring a standard TD rifle (or even standard rifle) into a more rarer category–if you get my meaning.   

IMHO, the “perch belly” in the stock is more of a function of the addition of the cheekpiece or the position and angle of the buttplate (+ – drop) than anything else.  Whoever the craftsman was at Win who made this stock did so with more ascetically pleasing lines and curves than some of other cheekpiece stocks Ive seen on other Win model examples.       

As with any special order gun, especially one that exhibits combination of several exceptionally rare features, the hammer price is what it is, and at least in the bidders minds, worth every penny.   

I agree with all these comments.  I very much doubt the, “perch belly” aspect of the stock had anything to do with instructions of the original purchaser.  I’m sure the purchaser specified he wanted checkering a checkpiece but the perch belly aspect was in they eye of the craftsman who made that stock – his free-lance sense of aesthetics.  There is an element of art when making a custom stock.  

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