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Rex Mahan
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April 30, 2013 - 6:15 am
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What do yall think of this:

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=338453961

I asked the man about the lack of case colors on the hammer and lever. He believes it was ordered without them.

Any thoughts.

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Rex,

Even with 80 photos it looks redone to me. Especially the receiver proof looks like it was re-stamped over the old one after it was very light following the buffing. The muzzle is wrong. The butt plate fit is a mess. I would pass quickly.

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It seems a bit early for the blued hammer and lever. The cal. stamp and polishing around the stamp look a little different from the rest of barrel. The early carbines in 32-40 and 38-55 with nicklel steel barrels that I have seen are special order and have a different stamp. The 2 i have are just marked "nickle steel" and the wood fit seems a little off for that time. I just don’t feel right on that one, I could be wrong!

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Rex:

Most definitely a redone gun. The blue on the receiver is much too bright. Look at the receiver polishing marks on pictures #34 & #39. They are all vertical. The wood fit of the fore-end to the receiver is wrong. Replaced screw on the butt-plate. Front sight pin has been in and out or replaced.

Run, don’t walk away from this one.

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makes me feel good to actually understand what people are saying about this gun. thanks for educating me.

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I just came across this carbine on Broker this morning at the table sipping my morning coffee. My first impressions too – and very quickly – was that it was refinished, and I’m pretty new to this. The vertical polishing marks on the way to real bright receiver, what looks like some dishing around some of the screws, the real poor fit of the buttstock, and the muzzle. I can’t believe it is bid up to almost $6,000. And still hasn’t met his reserve. Yikes.
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Wow… I can not believe that the seller thinks that gun is 100% factory original!

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I saw this a couple of days ago on GB…as mentioned above and in my opinion it’s just about a total re-do. To me the receiver color and polish and the wood to metal fit all over gave it away. I agree with Michael….run!! Peter

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I don’t like it either and there is a lot of this going around. My Bro in law bought what seemed to be a 99% M53 in 44-40 and we showed it to Larry Shennum at the Reno show. Total restoration he said, and he knows his Winchesters. The M53 also came off Gun Broker for $4,500+ shipping. BTW, someone mentioned the muzzle. The muzzle on 38-55 carbines is totally different than the standard one on a 30-30. These redo’s are fooling a lot of folks. Big Larry

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I think all the bidders are fooled because the gun is covered with rust freckles. It is an older reblue that was allowed to rust in an attic or basement. Maybe on purpose!

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