Avatar
Search
Forum Scope




Match



Forum Options



Minimum search word length is 3 characters - maximum search word length is 84 characters
Lost password?
sp_Feed sp_PrintTopic sp_TopicIcon
1901 mfg model 1894 38/55 1/2 mag OB 21”…
Avatar
jsgwoodsman
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 326
Member Since:
September 21, 2016
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
1
December 13, 2025 - 9:18 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_EditHistory

Traveling home from work I got a message from a local gun shop. An older gentleman was there trying to sell an early 1894 in 38-55. Purportedly with a factory 21” barrel.

I knew there weren’t many 94s in the letter-able range at 21”, but couldn’t remember how many. 

I stopped by and overall it seemed in decent original condition. Octagon barrel. 1/2 mag. Original finish, maybe 65-70%. 
I asked for a tape measure and the barrel measured a perfect 21”… from the receiver to muzzle! A cleaning rod measurement from muzzle to closed action was closer to 21 3/4”.

Great bore, smooth action. But the seller wanted unmodified prices, so I passed.

Luckily, optimism is free.  

Avatar
Henry Mero
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 1485
Member Since:
December 21, 2006
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
2
December 13, 2025 - 9:42 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print

According to the Armax study there were 4,  21″ rifle letterable in the 1894 model, so ya’ that would have been quite a find.

W.A.C.A. life member, Marlin Collectors Assn. charter and life member, C,S.S.A. member and general gun nut.

Avatar
Bert H.
Kingston, WA
Admin
Forum Posts: 13580
Member Since:
April 15, 2005
sp_UserOnlineSmall Online
3
December 13, 2025 - 11:36 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print

jsgwoodsman said
Traveling home from work I got a message from a local gun shop. An older gentleman was there trying to sell an early 1894 in 38-55. Purportedly with a factory 21” barrel.
I knew there weren’t many 94s in the letter-able range at 21”, but couldn’t remember how many. 
I stopped by and overall it seemed in decent original condition. Octagon barrel. 1/2 mag. Original finish, maybe 65-70%. 
I asked for a tape measure and the barrel measured a perfect 21”… from the receiver to muzzle! A cleaning rod measurement from muzzle to closed action was closer to 21 3/4”.
Great bore, smooth action. But the seller wanted unmodified prices, so I passed.
Luckily, optimism is free.  
  

The barrel is not 21″… instead, it is 21.75″ and as such it has positively been cut down.   It is good thing that you passed on it.

Bert

WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
High-walls-1-002-C-reduced2.jpg

Avatar
Tedk
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 826
Member Since:
August 27, 2014
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
4
December 13, 2025 - 11:48 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_EditHistory

One of my tells on determining if the barrel has been cut on a Sporting rifle from this era is an examination of the muzzle, it should be flat, in the white and have a slight to moderate chamfer at the bore entrance…Bert’s ‘Tips on buying an old Winchester’

“If you can’t convince them, confuse them”

President Harry S. Truman

Avatar
jsgwoodsman
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 326
Member Since:
September 21, 2016
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
5
December 14, 2025 - 4:37 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print

The muzzle looked good at first glance- flat and in the white with appropriate patina- but there was no chamfer at the bore entrance. I didn’t have calipers and didn’t bother trying to measure the width of the muzzle but it appeared wider than I’d have expected. 

After offering these observations – the gun soon left the shop. 

Thanks for the feedback gentleman

Forum Timezone: UTC 0
Most Users Ever Online: 5406
Currently Online: winchester73, Bert H., 426crown, Zebulon, Doc Lane, Bowhunter1965
Guest(s) 535
Currently Browsing this Page:
1 Guest(s)
Top Posters:
clarence: 7119
TXGunNut: 6863
Chuck: 6185
steve004: 5369
1873man: 4792
deerhunter: 2785
twobit: 2586
Big Larry: 2578
mrcvs: 2296
Maverick: 2095
Newest Members:
djvernon
The Draw
MattSpencer
Bronco17
Edcamera
Rich44-40
Jacques Emond
DanPfromTexas
Emammad14
RP Guest
Forum Stats:
Groups: 1
Forums: 18
Topics: 15271
Posts: 137626

 

Member Stats:
Guest Posters: 2057
Members: 10340
Moderators: 3
Admins: 4
Administrators: Mike Hager, Bert H., JWA, SethJ
Moderators: Rob Kassab, Brad Dunbar, Heather
Navigation