Avatar
Search
Forum Scope




Match



Forum Options



Minimum search word length is 3 characters - maximum search word length is 84 characters
Lost password?
sp_Feed sp_PrintTopic sp_TopicIcon
1895 Ammo
Avatar
Henry Mero
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 1485
Member Since:
December 21, 2006
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
1
December 21, 2020 - 4:43 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_EditHistory

These have to be more scarce than the gun they are for; notice they’re “unopened”

20201221_112624.jpgImage Enlarger

20201221_112654.jpgImage Enlarger
 

sp_PlupAttachments Attachments

W.A.C.A. life member, Marlin Collectors Assn. charter and life member, C,S.S.A. member and general gun nut.

Avatar
clarence
NY
Member
Restricted
Forum Posts: 7119
Member Since:
November 1, 2013
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
2
December 21, 2020 - 5:59 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print

Henry Mero said
These have to be more scarce than the gun they are for; notice they’re “unopened”

   

Unopened they certainly are, but a lot of this ammo must have made by US companies when DCM began (almost) giving them away after the US govt bought up all the Moisins built for the Czarist govt, but undelivered.

“Self-cleaning”?  They’d have to be made after about 1930 to have non-corrosive primers, & these look older than that.

Avatar
Chuck
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 6185
Member Since:
March 31, 2009
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
3
December 21, 2020 - 6:05 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print sp_EditHistory

The fact that they say smokeless leads me to believe they are older but maybe not?  I don’t collect the US Cartridge Co. ammo and don’t know how long the early smokeless cartridges were identified as not being black powder.

Avatar
clarence
NY
Member
Restricted
Forum Posts: 7119
Member Since:
November 1, 2013
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
4
December 21, 2020 - 6:57 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print

Chuck said
The fact that they say smokeless leads me to believe they are older but maybe not? 

It’s the 2-pc box that makes me think they’re too old to have non-corrosive primers; in fact, all the early non-corrosive ammo was identified as such on the box.  Anybody who shot smokeless with corrosive primers thinking they’re “self-cleaning” was in for a very nasty shock.

Avatar
Chuck
Member
WACA Member
Forum Posts: 6185
Member Since:
March 31, 2009
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
5
December 21, 2020 - 7:10 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print

We know now that the primers were probably as bad or worse than the black powder.

Avatar
clarence
NY
Member
Restricted
Forum Posts: 7119
Member Since:
November 1, 2013
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline
6
December 21, 2020 - 10:01 pm
sp_Permalink sp_Print

Chuck said
We know now that the primers were probably as bad or worse than the black powder.  

Chlorate primers were far worse!  But BP shooters cleaned with water, which washed out the salts.  Early smokeless shooters were led to believe by the makers of nitro-solvents like Hoppe’s that water was no longer needed, & countless barrels were ruined before that was disproved.

Forum Timezone: UTC 0
Most Users Ever Online: 5406
Currently Online: twobit, 426crown, tionesta1, antler1, deerhunter, Pwog, drice0517, Commissioner
Guest(s) 524
Currently Browsing this Page:
1 Guest(s)
Top Posters:
clarence: 7119
TXGunNut: 6864
Chuck: 6185
steve004: 5369
1873man: 4794
deerhunter: 2787
twobit: 2586
Big Larry: 2578
mrcvs: 2298
Maverick: 2095
Newest Members:
XPLSV
djvernon
The Draw
MattSpencer
Bronco17
Edcamera
Rich44-40
Jacques Emond
DanPfromTexas
Emammad14
Forum Stats:
Groups: 1
Forums: 18
Topics: 15276
Posts: 137664

 

Member Stats:
Guest Posters: 2057
Members: 10341
Moderators: 3
Admins: 4
Administrators: Mike Hager, Bert H., JWA, SethJ
Moderators: Rob Kassab, Brad Dunbar, Heather
Navigation