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Being new to the forums here I’m unsure if this is the correct place to post this but I would appreciate any help from all of the very knowledgeable folks on here. I acquired a fairly nice Winny 1894 saddle ring carbine chambered in 25-35 wcf, and the serial number dates it to being manufactured in 1923. At present I don’t have a photo to share but can post one either tonight or tomorrow. The only thing that to me detracts from it is where an owner long ago placed his 2 initials near the grip portion of the stock on one side, fairly small. Other than that it is in excellent shape for its age. I am considering lwtting this go but was wondering if anyone here could give me a better idea of its value. I appreciate any help you all could give me. Thanks and God bless.
Hello,
Please post the pictures… it is not really possible to come up with a reasonably accurate value assessment without first seelng the gun in question.
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
Bert H. said
Hello,Please post the pictures… it is not really possible to come up with a reasonably accurate value assessment without first seeing the gun in question.
Bert
Also Bert, what’s a Winny? A horse rifle? Big Larry
Big Larry said
Also Bert, what’s a Winny? A horse rifle? Big Larry
Larry,
Why are you asking me… I did not use that term.
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
Bert H. said
Larry,
Why are you asking me… I did not use that term.
Bert
Sorry. My bad. I am quite sure you would never use that term. Big Larry
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Okay, sorry about the delay in providing photos & for the ‘inappropriate’ term for a Winchester. All other sites that I’m a member at generally use this term & I didn’t realize that I might be being sacriligious using the ‘Winny’ term. I hope the above link will work for you all as it does work when I copy & paste it in my browser. I also have a nice ‘Winchester’ model 1885, 4 digit serial 58xx, chambered in .32 short & a model 42 410 pump in excellent condition that I may post about later if I don’t step on any more toes. I greatly appreciate your help & expertise regarding these items. Being disabled for many years now I have gotten to a place where I may have to let one or more go, as much as I hate to. Thank you again & God bless.
Liberty
p.s. I realize the Winchester model 94 could use a good cleaning. I don’t have the correct screwdrivers available & refuse to use anything that would mar or bugger the screw heads or I would have taken it down & cleaned it properly. It was cleaned to the best of my ability without removing any screws. Oh, and I did forget tp take a shot of the bore but it is darned near like a new barrel inside. It looks to me like it spent most of its life being carried.
Larry, a “WINNY” is a SRC built especially for cowboys that got into an Indian fight as they were traveling around. It had a trap door in the butt stock and inside was a little white flag with two strings attached. If the fight was going bad for the cowboy he could tie the flag to the barrel of the gun as a peace sign and wave it and then was allowed to get on his horse and leave. This was only valid if he left within 10 minutes though. I’m surprised no one knew that.
Eagle said
Larry, a “WINNY” is a SRC built especially for cowboys that got into an Indian fight as they were traveling around. It had a trap door in the butt stock and inside was a little white flag with two strings attached. If the fight was going bad for the cowboy he could tie the flag to the barrel of the gun as a peace sign and wave it and then was allowed to get on his horse and leave. This was only valid if he left within 10 minutes though. I’m surprised no one knew that.
This guy must be a newby. XX’s and Winnys. Please, we do not do that on this Forum. This is a learning forum and complete serial numbers are used here for educational purposes, not to call the gun police. Thank you. Big Larry
My goodness Larry…just funning with you a bit and certainly not meant to belittle the OP, you, or anyone else. By the way, what was your comment
(“Also Bert, what’s a Winny? A horse rifle? Big Larry”) about a Winny supposed to be anyway? Lighten up man! Peter
Let me try this once more, my friends. Apparently the previous link was requiring a password even though the photos were set to ‘public’, so I hope this new link will work.
I sincerely apologize for my calling the Winchester a ‘Winny’, but as on others boards that I’ve been involved with this was the usual term used. This was the first time I had ever used the term but it will be the last, I assure you. Also, regarding the “xx’s” I only placed them as I had forgotten the last 2 digits of the serial number of the 1885. I do know that it dated to 1886, according to an online Winchester serial number site. If you can see the photos of the carbine you’ll notice that one is of the complete serial number. I am new to this site & not trying to cause any problems or discourse. I am simply asking for help with the problems mentioned. I was pointed in your direction from a couple of sites that I’ve been a member of for many years with 100% positive feedback and nothing bad ever associated with me. One was GON & the other is ODT.com Apparently these friends of mine on those sites think pretty highly of this site & recommended that I contact the fine folk on here for help. I appreciate everyone’s help regarding the model 94 carbine I’ve posted about. I hope this latest link will work but if not if someone could give me a heads-up I’ll see what other means of posting them are available. Thanks and God bless.
Liberty
Thank you for your help. Please forgive my gaff on the Winchester name. I just didn’t know what its’ worth was & was pointed towards this site. Thanks again. Oh, the 1885 is serialed 5898. Thanks again.
That was not a gaff in my opinion. Maybe others will voice their opinion of what they think it might be worth. Luck to you! Peter
Eagle said
My goodness Larry…just funning with you a bit and certainly not meant to belittle the OP, you, or anyone else. By the way, what was your comment(“Also Bert, what’s a Winny? A horse rifle? Big Larry”) about a Winny supposed to be anyway? Lighten up man! Peter
By the way. The comment was not directed to you Sir. Big Larry
November 7, 2015
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Welcome to the forum, Liberty. I hope the quibbling on your first thread won’t give you a bad impression of this site. We have some very knowledgeable and helpful folks hanging out here.
Mike
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Let me try this once more, my friends. Apparently the previous link was requiring a password even though the photos were set to ‘public’, so I hope this new link will work.
I sincerely apologize for my calling the Winchester a ‘Winny’, but as on others boards that I’ve been involved with this was the usual term used. This was the first time I had ever used the term but it will be the last, I assure you. Also, regarding the “xx’s” I only placed them as I had forgotten the last 2 digits of the serial number of the 1885. I do know that it dated to 1886, according to an online Winchester serial number site. If you can see the photos of the carbine you’ll notice that one is of the complete serial number. I am new to this site & not trying to cause any problems or discourse. I am simply asking for help with the problems mentioned. I was pointed in your direction from a couple of sites that I’ve been a member of for many years with 100% positive feedback and nothing bad ever associated with me. One was GON & the other is ODT.com Apparently these friends of mine on those sites think pretty highly of this site & recommended that I contact the fine folk on here for help. I appreciate everyone’s help regarding the model 94 carbine I’ve posted about. I hope this latest link will work but if not if someone could give me a heads-up I’ll see what other means of posting them are available. Thanks and God bless.
Liberty
No need to apologize, and I am not quite sure why there was all of the unneeded superfluous bantering from some of our other forum members.
In regards to your SRC, it is in relatively rough condition, and it will not have much interest or value in the collector market. The 25-35 WCF chambered Model 1894/94s are commonly found with less than pristine bores. If the bore condition on your SRC matches the exterior condition, I suspect you will have a tough time selling it for more than $500.
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
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Thank you for your help. Please forgive my gaff on the Winchester name. I just didn’t know what its’ worth was & was pointed towards this site. Thanks again. Oh, the 1885 is serialed 5898. Thanks again.
Your Model 1885 Single Shot rifle is a Plain Sporting Rifle, in standard configuration. The 32 Short rim fire is a tough sell, as it is an obsolete cartridge, and expensive to shoot these days. If the rifle is in high condition, it will have some interest in the collector market. I will need to see pictures of it to assess it accurately.
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
I greatly appreciate your information and your kind replies. I’ll see if I can’t get another photo album put together & put the link on here so you can see it. I had thought before of acquiring a replacement bolt/firing block for it & having it set up for centerfire ammo but haven’t gotten around to it, as I could never bring myself to have the original part altered. Thank you again and God bless.
Liberty
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