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April 23, 2024
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Winchester Extra Light manufactured in 1911, 22″ barrel take down with a 14″ magazine and a 8 3/8 ” forearm my friends are split on the receiver finish as there are blue strikes like in case colored and it looks like someone put a reciver sight on. Since it will not letter I’m going have to get professional help to auithincate. From my research Winchester didn’t start the Extra Light model until 1898. Due to how small the profile of barrel hince the sight ramp due to the closeness of the dove tail so close to the bore. Enjoy
April 15, 2005
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Late July 1911, and it is an ELW Take Down rifle. The pictures are not good enough to determine that status of the bluing on the receiver frame. The barrel looks like it was reblued, a clear picture of the Nickel Steel marking on the barrel will tell the story. Does it have a hard rubber shotgun butt plate?
Bert
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April 23, 2024
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Bert H. said
Late July 1911, and it is an ELW Take Down rifle. The pictures are not good enough to determine that status of the bluing on the receiver frame. The barrel looks like it was reblued, a clear picture of the Nickel Steel marking on the barrel will tell the story. Does it have a hard rubber shotgun butt plate?
Bert
No it has a cresent buttplate, I am sending the rifle to Wyoming Armory next week to be authenticated. The stock fits nice but I feel like it is a replacement. We will find out soon as my local gun collectors are split on its originally when I get my gun back I will post the results.
August 10, 2025
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Bert H. said
Late July 1911, and it is an ELW Take Down rifle. The pictures are not good enough to determine that status of the bluing on the receiver frame. The barrel looks like it was reblued, a clear picture of the Nickel Steel marking on the barrel will tell the story. Does it have a hard rubber shotgun butt plate?
Bert
What are the tell tale signs of something being reblued? Just over all condition relative to the rest of the gun or just the way it looks? Sorry I am an amateur when it comes to this.
April 15, 2005
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Gulfcoastcowboy said
Bert H. said
Late July 1911, and it is an ELW Take Down rifle. The pictures are not good enough to determine that status of the bluing on the receiver frame. The barrel looks like it was reblued, a clear picture of the Nickel Steel marking on the barrel will tell the story. Does it have a hard rubber shotgun butt plate?
Bert
No it has a cresent buttplate, I am sending the rifle to Wyoming Armory next week to be authenticated. The stock fits nice but I feel like it is a replacement. We will find out soon as my local gun collectors are split on its originally when I get my gun back I will post the results.
A crescent butt indicates that it is a replacement. The ELWs were standard with a shotgun butt w/hard rubber butt plate.
Bert
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April 15, 2005
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Noah Hutchens said
Bert H. said
Late July 1911, and it is an ELW Take Down rifle. The pictures are not good enough to determine that status of the bluing on the receiver frame. The barrel looks like it was reblued, a clear picture of the Nickel Steel marking on the barrel will tell the story. Does it have a hard rubber shotgun butt plate?
Bert
What are the tell tale signs of something being reblued? Just over all condition relative to the rest of the gun or just the way it looks? Sorry I am an amateur when it comes to this.
The color of the bluing on the barrel is too dark, and not consistent with the “rust” bluing that Winchester used on the Nickel Steel barrels in the pre 1930s era.
Bert
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September 22, 2011
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I wouldn’t waste time and money sending this one anywhere. The extra holes in the receiver kills the value on this one.
April 23, 2024
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Bert H. said
Noah Hutchens said
Bert H. said
Late July 1911, and it is an ELWBert H. said
Gulfcoastcowboy said
Bert H. said
Late July 1911, and it is an ELW Take Down rifle. The pictures are not good enough to determine that status of the bluing on the receiver frame. The barrel looks like it was reblued, a clear picture of the Nickel Steel marking on the barrel will tell the story. Does it have a hard rubber shotgun butt plate?
Bert
No it has a cresent buttplate, I am sending the rifle to Wyoming Armory next week to be authenticated. The stock fits nice but I feel like it is a replacement. We will find out soon as my local gun collectors are split on its originally when I get my gun back I will post the results.
A crescent butt indicates that it is a replacement. The ELWs were standard with a shotgun butt w/hard rubber butt plate.
Bert
Take Down rifle. The pictures are not good enough to determine that status of the bluing on the receiver frame. The barrel looks like it was reblued, a clear picture of the Nickel Steel marking on the barrel will tell the story. Does it have a hard rubber shotgun butt plate?
Bert
What are the tell tale signs of something being reblued? Just over all condition relative to the rest of the gun or just the way it looks? Sorry I am an amateur when it comes to this.
The color of the bluing on the barrel is too dark, and not consistent with the “rust” bluing that Winchester used on the Nickel Steel barrels in the pre 1930s era.
Bert
April 23, 2024
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Here’s a picture of the Nickel Steel marking 
September 19, 2014
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further, the checkering at the grip on the butt stock is not Winchester checkering. Tim
April 15, 2005
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The receiver frame has definitely been buffed and refinished (albeit a long time ago). I cannot be certain about the barrel, but I suspect that it has been reblued.
Bert
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December 9, 2002
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Everything, that is being stated above, I am in agreement with.
Tim,
That after market checkering on the wrist bothers the heck out of me, as it’s not only, Gaudy, but down right disgusting.
Ian,
Those extra holes in the receiver are definitely a deterrent, from a rear sight that was added later, as you stated.
Bert,
I’m in agreement with you on the re blued barrel, that doesn’t match the magazine tube.
GCC,
In all honesty, I hope you don’t have a lot into this piece, and I don’t know what you’re intentions are with it, as it’s not a collectable rifle, even though it is a Take Down, and a light weight rifle. Sending it to Wyoming Armory and having Mark tell you everything these experts here have told you, in a professional manner, well, it’s you’re money, but no one here would do that. IMHO!
Anthony
