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1892 WInchester with a "1" stamped under the rear dovetail
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I have an 1892 Winchester in 44-40 that has the number “1” stamped under the dovetail. It is missing the upper plug on the top tang, so think it perhaps had a tang sight at one time. I removed the rear sight, as the sight was not adjusting to the left so I wanted to clean the dovetail. The rifle was made in 1913.

My question: What does the stamp under the dovetail represent?

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I have an 1892 Winchester in 44-40 that has the number “1” stamped under the dovetail. It is missing the upper plug on the top tang, so think it perhaps had a tang sight at one time. I removed the rear sight, as the sight was not adjusting to the left so I wanted to clean the dovetail. The rifle was made in 1913.

My question: What does the stamp under the dovetail represent?

  

Craig,

Can you post a series of photos of the rifle?  Or send them to me at [email protected]

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Sending an email Michael.

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Craig,

Here are the photos of your rifle.  I can’t say I have any idea why the dovetail is stamped like that but I also have not seen many empty dovetail images of the +19,400 Model rifles in my survey.  What is the serial number of your rifle?

Michael

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728135.

Understood, but thanks for considering.

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Craig,

I saw that rifle listed on Gunbroker last month out of Sayervlle, NJ.  

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Cant think of any reason why it would have a “1” stamped in the dovetail.  Cant tell from the photo whether it was stamped prior to or after the barrel was blued, or if the “halo” around the “1” was produced from stamping after the barrel was blued or removal of blue sliding in the rear sight. 

Have come across one other 1892 a long time ago with the marking of a “1” on the inside of the button mag forearm cap and on the barrel adjacent to the forearm cap tenon dovetail.  Its an odd rifle anyway, the SN is 842765 that is stamped in the older and earlier SN script, it does not have proof marks on the barrel or receiver, etc. 

 

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This was owned by an old ranch hand (Harlan Clark) in N. Texas sold by his family (according to the story…???), was said to have been carried it a bit on the saddle, then it was carried on the family’s Model T in later years.   HC initials carved on the left buttstock.

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Thank you

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It may be an inspector’s mark.  “Your job is the dovetail inspector.  Here is your stamp!!”

Michael

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