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August 4, 2016
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I recently purchased a 1892 src made in 1906 and noticed the muzzle was blued? Is this normal from factory? I have heard mixed results on this subject? I am just trying to make sure it is original. Thank You
April 15, 2005
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Hello Kash,
For the SRCs, the muzzles were blued. For the Sporting Rifles, the muzzles were in the white (not blued).
Bert
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August 25, 2009
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Hey Bert,
Care to expand on why the SRC barrels were blued and not the rifles?
April 15, 2005
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Doug,
I do not know the reason why Winchester treated them differently.
Bert
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March 20, 2009
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kash haley said
I recently purchased a 1892 src made in 1906 and noticed the muzzle was blued? Is this normal from factory? I have heard mixed results on this subject? I am just trying to make sure it is original. Thank You
Hello kash,
I agree with Bert. The SRC muzzles are blued but not certain of the reason for the difference with sporting rifles. Since the SRC barrel are finished with a radius and sporting rifles are flat it may have to do with the final finish on the sporting rifle barrels to get a flat perpendicular face for the barrel.
Can you add the rifle to the survey I am working on?
Michael
Model 1892 / Model 61 Collector, Research, Valuation
August 4, 2016
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Thank You for the info! I was also wondering if the lever and hammer were suppose to be blued or case colored? It dates 1906 in 25-20 and is a 1892 src. I have heard that case coloring was a special order? Also are there different size hammers for the src? My hammer seems short and there is no border on the top half of my hammer around the checkering? Thanks
April 15, 2005
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Kash,
In the year 1906, the hammer and lever were originally case color finished. Case color finished receiver frames were a special order feature until August of 1901, when Winchester ceased offering that option.
Bert
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August 4, 2016
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So a hammer and lever blued would not be original to a 1892 src from 1906. Any easy way to tell a re-blue on a Winchester? I appreciate all the info!
Thanks
March 20, 2009
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kash haley said
So a hammer and lever blued would not be original to a 1892 src from 1906. Any easy way to tell a re-blue on a Winchester? I appreciate all the info!Thanks
Kash,
A blued lever on the early rifles is a dead give away for a refinished rifle. LOTS of guys do not realize this so you will come across it often.
Michael
Model 1892 / Model 61 Collector, Research, Valuation
April 15, 2005
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Kash,
In addition to a blued lever and/or hammer, the muzzle face on the “Rifle” barrels was uncrowned, and left in the white (not blued). For the guns manufactured after mid year 1905, inspecting the proof mark stamp on the top of the frame ring and barrel is another way to potentially detect refinish work.
Bert
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August 4, 2016
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I really appreciate all the help! I just want to clarify that I have a Saddle Ring Carbine 1892 from 1906. I am trying to see how original the src is I don’t feel it has been re-blued but the hammer and lever are blued so I have some question? The sights are right, I know the wood has not been re-finished. Anymore info would be great. The proof marks look right, but how would they look for a re-blue?
Thanks for all the help!
April 15, 2005
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Kash,
Winchester applied the proof marks after the barrel and receiver frame had been final polished and blued. The periphery (outer edges) of the proof marks should be raised and slightly rough to the touch, and the bluing should be thinner (almost gray in color). If the bluing is completely uniform in color inside and surrounding the proof mark, and/or the proof mark is faint, or smooth to the touch when you run your fingertip across it, it has been polished and refinished.
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
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