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As has been discussed, these have become darn hard to find. Particularly in a large caliber and of course the .44-40 is the one to have. This is an antique and the seller states it letters. You have to expect to pay to play on these.
OK… so which one of you is going to Pony Up the $$$$$ and own it ??
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No doubt! Throw the Red Book and all the rest of the books straight out the window, after you tire of jumping up and down on them. Thanks for going to all the trouble you did to find this one Steve, especially after they were put right up there with hen’s teeth.
James
Bert H. said
OK… so which one of you is going to Pony Up the $$$$$ and own it ??
Bert tell me that rifle is way overpriced!
James
jwm94 said
Bert tell me that rifle is way overpriced!
James
Find one like it for less 😉
Well you sure got me there. I still stand by what I said. Everyone keep an eye out for another and we’ll see how many can be found. Anyone here, when was the last time you’ve see one of these offered for sale? This my second one. I’d love to buy this gun. I wonder why he didn’t show the letter?
jwm94 said
Bert tell me that rifle is way overpriced!
James
I can’t… the fact that it is in Excellent+ condition and can be lettered is a large boost to the value. If I could only own one Model 1892, that would be a damn fine choice!
Bert
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I hear you, Steve. I’ll have to a think on whether I want it or another piece or two…like one of Tom Selleck’s pieces you posted on
James
Chuck said
Well you sure got me there. I still stand by what I said. Everyone keep an eye out for another and we’ll see how many can be found. Anyone here, when was the last time you’ve see one of these offered for sale? This my second one. I’d love to buy this gun. I wonder why he didn’t show the letter?
I also wonder the same thing.
A fine 1892!
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Excellent eye candy. Thanks for sharing the link.
Mike
I had to get off the iPhone and on the laptop to get a better look at the pics.
Bert: How can you appraise the condition as Excellent+ with the marring of the metal and wood?
Steve: I haven’t stopped thinking about this rifle since the discussion last night, and I awoke with it on my mind as well. Why is it when one has a budget in mind, it’s always shot to hell and back?! 
Seriously, I can’t see myself paying so much above book, unless I had been in the hunt a very long time and just had to have it, or I was trying to fill a niche. Which brings to mind, Chuck.
Chuck: I’m out of it at the price listed, and I don’t want to make an offer that the seller might take as a low-ball. I’d be in it for over 30k after state taxes.
Aussie and tionesta: Thanks for the comments about the letter and the hammer…both of which would have to be checked out.
James
jwm94 said
Bert: How can you appraise the condition as Excellent+ with the marring of the metal and wood?
James
James,
“Excellent” condition for an “Antique” is not the same or as stringent as “Excellent” condition for a “modern” firearm. In my opinion, the rifle in question has at least 90% of its original factory finish, with very light toning/patina in the correct locations. That rifle is just a couple of months shy of being 125-years old, and it has survived in remarkedly fine condition.
Bert
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
Bert H. said
James,
“Excellent” condition for an “Antique” is not the same or as stringent as “Excellent” condition for a “modern” firearm. In my opinion, the rifle in question has at least 90% of its original factory finish, with very light toning/patina in the correct locations. That rifle is just a couple of months shy of being 125-years old, and it has survived in remarkedly fine condition.
Bert
Thanks for the expansion on the grading, Bert…I was thrown off by the following thoughts. It was the Antique standard that resulted in my specific questions. I see it as 80 to 90+ percentage wise, or VG to EX+ Antique wise, with the latter being tolerable should a potential buyer want the piece but, of course, with this rifle apparently being so very rare…even that is a moot point.
James
This one doesn’t quite check all the boxes for me – no takedown feature !
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steve004 said
This one doesn’t quite check all the boxes for me – no takedown feature !🙁
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Picky, picky, picky!!!
WACA Historian & Board of Director Member #6571L
No doubt this is a super nice gun – and rare. In another post over the last few days I talked about my quest for the 44 a long time ago and my eventual purchase of the 25-20 which I have never regretted. I have always been a stickler for screws – the upper tang screw on the gun gives me indigestion and I am wondering why the seller did not replace it – maybe it is just not possible to match. I agree with Berts assessment of condition. When closely examined it does have very slight issues which I correlate to having less than optimal storage. When I look at the butt and wood where it meets the butt it exhibits what probably could have been prevented by a light coat of oil a couple of times a year and kept in a climate controlled environment. If you had this gun in your lap you would see slight surface rust damage on the receiver and a couple places on the barrel. I would like to see the bore! Because of where I live and the fact I don’t get to gun shows I have not seen and handled the vast numbers of guns other guys like Bert has. However I have owned quite a few nice deluxe guns of this vintage and have found that when you get this issue on the outside, even slightly, it may be there on the inside. I would also like to see the letter and for a gun priced where this one is, I am surprised the seller did not include it with the pictures. I am not trying to knock the gun – I am in awe of it – and like someone else said, where are you going to get another one! I keep thinking I have seen this gun for sale somewhere over the last few years – same seller.
I appreciate your comments to this end as well, Burt. I’m here to learn and pass on any knowledge that I have as well. You folks that have 45 to 55 plus years in this endeavor are more savvy and are from the old school…that’s good, and I’ll use this knowledge the best I can. Me, I’ve only been at it a bit more than 25 years, and I learned mostly on my own through books and also through forum’s, reading auction descriptions and the like. The description that I gave was more textbook perfect, but not old school savvy. For example, I am of the opinion that there are a lot of antique rifles that are decidedly in better condition than the subject rifle that do not meet the NRA Antique Description standards of Factory New, which played a big part in my description…maybe I sweat too much small stuff?!
BTW, I sent you a PM earlier this morning.
James
Burt – even though I have only photos to go by, your deluxe .25-20 appears in notably higher condition than this .44-40. I would say that were this .44-40 in the same condition as your .25-20, I would find the advertised price more reasonable.
steve004 said
Burt – even though I have only photos to go by, your deluxe .25-20 appears in notably higher condition than this .44-40. I would say that were this .44-40 in the same condition as your .25-20, I would find the advertised price more reasonable.
I’m all ears, Steve!!! 
And agree with you.
James
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