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1890 22 long feed issue
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June 28, 2019 - 4:37 pm
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Ok, life has slowed down a bit and I was finally able to get a chance to mess with this 1890.  The barrel says 22 long and I have some which I tried in it.

 

It fires fine and functions well when I put a single round in the tube, however, if there is more than one in the tube, the elevator won’t rise up.

 

Could it have been converted to 22 LR and the 22 long is too short now?

 

I can give that a try and see what happens.

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That seems to be the answer. Funny considering the guy said it was partially so cheap because it was 22 long.  Now to clean up and tighten the stock and see if I can find a top part for the Lyman tang sight.

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June 28, 2019 - 4:56 pm
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Oh yeah if anyone wants about 500 rds of CCI 22 long let me know.

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KingCobb said
That seems to be the answer. Funny considering the guy said it was partially so cheap because it was 22 long.  Now to clean up and tighten the stock and see if I can find a top part for the Lyman tang sight.  

Generally if an 1890 stock is “loose” , it’s cracked in the tang.

Erin

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KingCobb said
Ok, life has slowed down a bit and I was finally able to get a chance to mess with this 1890.  The barrel says 22 long and I have some which I tried in it.

 

It fires fine and functions well when I put a single round in the tube, however, if there is more than one in the tube, the elevator won’t rise up.

 

Could it have been converted to 22 LR and the 22 long is too short now?

 

I can give that a try and see what happens.  

How did you determine the gun has been converted?  Most chambers are deeper than necessary. Sometimes a long will chamber a long rifle and so on.  The part that is different on the individual calibers is the lifter.  The lifter is cartridge specific.  A WFR has many different parts. 

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The lifter would jam because the next round in the tube would fall back with the round that was already in the lifter with 22 lungs.  The gun wouldn’t cycle.

 

With 22 LR the gun cycles perfectly with no jamming of the elevator at all.

 

Currently letting the buggered rear tang screw soak in penetrating oil to see if I can get it off to see what the inside of stock looks like.

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KingCobb said 

 

Currently letting the buggered rear tang screw soak in penetrating oil to see if I can get it off to see what the inside of stock looks like.  

The screws provided with the tang sights were not ( in my opinion) properly heat treated and the screw slots were not properly cut (again in my opinion). The screws are very soft and even with the correct hollow ground bit that fits properly you have to be very careful not to let it slip. Way too many Stanley or craftsman screw drivers were used on these and caused lots of problems down the road. (aka easy out removal)

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I ended up having to drill out the screw, but it’s out.

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If the gun has a “long rifle” lifter in it the longs will go in farther than designed. Maybe this is what allows the second round to get in the way?  Since the chambers are deeper than absolutely necessary the gun could have had the elevator changed to a long rifle?

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June 30, 2019 - 6:40 pm
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That is what I am assuming.  It fires the LR ammo fine and is good accuracy wise with it.

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I think so too.  Long ammo is much harder to find.  I would just shoot it as is.  If this bothers you take the elevator out and see what is going on.

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July 1, 2019 - 2:23 am
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No I am actually happy with it being LR

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